Vasa (1625 - 1628)

Everything beautiful save the strange angle of the ship, I think if you want her to be sinking she should be lower in the water, or if she is listing from the wind there are many changes that would need to be made. I love everything else about it so personally I'd like to see the ship upright. Can't get past the angle.

amazing image reminds me in composition and mood of some of Turners work ,well done regards

Great creation....well done 6/6

7/7

I wish the coward that rated 3/3 would reveal and let us take a peak at their work since this person figures this is 3/3. Pleae tell me this is a glitch in the system.John

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I'm in total agreement with Ross Campbell. While I can appreciate the time and effort and TALENT that goes into creating a Photoshop image as impressive as this image is, albeit the obvious flaws, I believe there must be at the outset the admission that this is not a photograph in the true sense, as obvious as that may be to even the vaguely experienced eye. Admittedly, elements of the image are surely photo-based, but that's as far as I'll take it. I've tried to stress the seperation of both artforms to my many photo club colleagues, some of whom have defected from the substantive meaning of "photographic art" and succumbed to the world of Photoshop "graphic illustration". Even "wildlife" shooters among them have been drawn into undisciplined use of what I deem unbridled embellishment, where the original image goes from a natural in every respect photo of a living thing to a garishly saturated, over sharpened plasticised object with all life sucked right out of it. Again, my hat is tipped in appreciation and recognition of the graphic artists and there work...but please don't call it photography.

 

This should be a book cover!! Voyage of the Dawntreader - C.S. Lewis - one his Chronicles of Narnia!One of my favorite children's books - this is now one of my favorite photos! Stunning!!!

Like a movie magic amazing !

Great picture...

A stunning image. I love the color tones, lighting in the background as well as on the ship and sails. Excellent placement of the Ship and "created" shadow which looks very realistic. As far as the Ships angle, calm waters etc...You would have to have an immence knowedge of the Sea and Ships etc...to notice such details... most people including myself, don't. I hope the Ship was origianlly your own photograph as well as the background image...it is more

impressive that way and makes the images 100% yours weather it was Manipulated in Photo Shop or not. I once had a deck of cards with a beautiful scene simular to this. You should be able to sell this image easily. Do you have any moody foggy ship images? Love to see one..there's a new project for you :-)

Ross Campbell has said it all about this picture (and perhaps also in terms of the ongoing photography/photoshop debate):

 

"... it's most likely the work of someone who knows how to DESIGN A ELECTRONIC PICTURE on a computer, rather than capture a moment of life. So that doesn?t make it original in the sense of it being a real photo, but it does in the sense that i have never seen many PICTURES/PHOTOS like this before."

 

so there we have it: photography "captures of moment of live" (directly, i would add). it is the photographer's grasp/capture of his/her version/perception of that particular moment in time. with photoshop one makes/creates something else, and in that sense it is also a version of (the photoshopper's) reality. but, then, as in the case of 16th-17th century painters, one would expect a "digital picture" such as this one, to adhere to common natural and other "laws'/conventions", and not only be "pretty" or "awesome" (unless, i suppose it is meant to be a surrealistic digital picture). none of the great european masters would have painted this scene with all its flaws running against the laws of nature (e.g a calm sea with blowing sails and not as much as a drop of water splashing against the keel; degree of tilt; short shadow etc. -- see other comments above). and this is the main reason why it should not be on the cover of a (serious) book meant for education/infotainment. or do we want to tell the readers that ships sail ON the water, and not IN the water?

 

so what do we have in the end?: a pretty amazing pretty digital picture. asdeb

 

Hummmm...yes I see that the shadow is some what short in perspective to the sun, but I think having the shadow go out of the frame and lose detail in the water would hurt the composition.

Thank you very much for the nice words and especially for the critiques (again).

 

I posted this picture under "Digital manipulation" gallery, and since most of the authors who post PS-manipulated images do not include technical details about the manipulation itself (or my observations are wrong?), I decided this will be enough. I'm not trying to fool you or to hide that the image is manipulated - I think it is obvious. However, I will edit the details and I will put an explanation.

 

I saw many flaws in the picture thanks to your comments and even before posting it, but they are not connected with the calm sea or the presence of wind. They are connected with my limited PS-abilities. I am sorry, this is what I can do at this moment and I hope I will get better (I want to stress, however, that the photography and the photomanipulation is only my hobby and I am doing this just for fun).

 

Concerning the main question - what is this? :) - I can answer very simple: this is a manipulated picture(s) with wrong title (The Death of Vasa is more appropriate, for example) and technically limited, strongly idealized interpretation of something that happened in 1628 - the sink of a beautiful ship in calm water. It is meant to look beautiful and it is not meant to look completely realistic. Having said that, I am not avoiding the complaints about some of the technical details - I completely accept them, as I said. I just want to say that my main efforts were in other direction - to make the picture good-looking. :) I see for many of the viewers this works, despite the technical flaws. For the others who don't like it - I'll try harder next time. :)

 

Btw, I like more the other interpretation you can find in my profile - "Vasa's Dream". I posted it because, in my view, it is exactly opposite of this one. This one is unrealistic, beautiful (according to most of the comments) eye-candy. The other one is more realistic (I think), I spend much of my efforts making it more natural, instead of making it good-looking.

 

Thank you again for your comments.

 

(...and please, excuse my English. :)

I have been following this debate for some time. Suffice to say I want to congratulate you on the good and mature way you have handled all the comments.

 

And thank you to everyone else who debated this very good photography v graphic art point and picture (not photograph) in such good spirit.

 

JH

Hi --

 

In a word: Brilliant. The detail in the sails, especially, is astounding for a model and your composite work is excellent -- especially the reflection of the sun on the hull and the way you've matched highlight and shadow tones in the ship and the sea.

 

In fact, the only flaw I can find is the absence of a wake and bow wave. (Well, I also think she's heeling a bit much for a breeze which, given the absence of white caps, is certainly less than 12 knots, but that's another story.)

 

Congratulations on a stunning and professionally executed image. -- jim

This is a good reminder for some of us that pure photography, like most else, is not pure and never was, that is the way it is, get over it. I am always amused by the manipulated (but not photoshopped) images displayed by news media that show the authors opinions by the way the subject is portrayed. The important thing is that we remember images are never true.

 

But I digress, I did not read any mention of the stunning seascape, which might be even better without the ship. The PS is ordinary and storybook like. Thanks to the photographer for sharing the development details.

Very high calass photography. Composition and tones are superb.

GREAT !!!!

A beautiful photo. Stunning... :)

Beautiful photo!!!!!!!

amazing work... great colors!