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Was your latest contribution a follow-up to my last comment? You and I seem to be on the same page, right? Cheers.

 

-JWrightwood

Shouldn't a furburger have fur? So this is the infamous pussyburger that got Bill Press and that Darius guy so worked up. Actually I think it is very clever and in very good taste.

 

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Yes, Jim, it was. Cheers!

Jim, even if it would be a snuff photo (with the victim a woman, naked) some would claim that this is ok. Liberty of expression.

I`m not for censorship, I`m for the good photography and I`m against overrated bad taste nudes... even I wouldn`t call this a nude... However, all the stigmatized red dot movement isn`t about this. Maybe this started it, but isn`t really only about it. In my opinion, isn`t against nudes, isn`t against porn, it`s against photos (of a certain category LOL) that receive very high ratings regardless their artistic qualities.

In a word, teh red dot movement it`s aginst bad photography.

It is not ok? No... cause liberty of expression means that everybody is equal (so the same are their creations), that democracy means that everybody being equal is allowed to do anything. Oh, the society of 2006... it`s sick!... We are like in 1984`s Big Brother shit. Give me a break. We are all so hypocrits when stating things like that.

Democracy means the majority decides, not the individual (demos = folk; cratos = power). And liberty of expression doesn`t allow you to do everything you want. For instance I`m not allowed to walk naked on the streets (and I`m sure in USA is the same), I have no right to express loudly my state of spirit in the night waking up my neighbors, you cannot sale sex toys with toys for children, you cannot draw on the street walls (even though graffiti is lately considered a form of plastic art), you cannot paint the street in front of your house or anywhere else and so on! I can give you hundreds of examples of things (stupid ones or not) that in a democratic society you are not allowed to do, just to point a little the misunderstood notions of liberty of expression and democracy. I`m off.

Yes Darius. You are off! It sounds like you are taking this mundane discussion way too seriously. As for being hypocrits.... we all are to a degree, just some WAY more than others. The red dot thing is not just about bad photos, it is about folks whinning about not getting as far up the TRP as they wish they could. In the end who in the rest of the world really cares. I don't. I am sure they don't in Darfur either. Like I stated earlier; just antagonizing. Seems like I got to you. By the way, you have a great portfolio. The dots kinda detract from it though. I'd lose those personally.

Ups! As far as I can see Red Dot becomes to something like Torquemada, now we can see red dots in everywhere for any reason, just a nude skin it's enough sometimes. What's that?? If Darius statement about the origins of the RD movement are true (against bad photography) then extent it to the thousands of stupid pets shots, or insulse sunsets, lacrimous wedding memories who nobody cares, or merely out of focus, out of range, out of sense images jumping around us.

At all, even for the initial (polemic) purposes RD has changed, now they are "The Voice Of Decency", or "The Big Brother", or "I'll Save You From Your Own Sins"...

Sometimes I laugh a lot because there are a teenager rooky that (as he told us in his introductory text) he is here for learning, and suddenly from one minute to the other he is transfigured into the Moral Censor who decides what is decency or not... well... I laugh but just for a minute, after this minute I'm too serious, because this way of thinking and its comsequences are extremely dangerous. An ancient illness. The name of this illness? Fundamentalism. Intolerance. To Dallas, please stop wasting time qualifying things that you don't understand, and use your time for your original purpose, you have a lots of things to learn my dear little boy, not only about photography.

About the picture here? I don't like it, but I don't dare to state any moral critique on it, I don't like because it's vulgar without any artistic value, and the subject don't deserves such culinary treatment just for a shot in order to be polemic.

To Darius: "crater" doesn't means "power", this root comes from the greek word "cratera"=vessel, the recipient where people deposites their votes; a white peeble or a black one.

I enjoy nudes. Go look at my top rated photos and see. But I don't want to see porn on photonet. This is porn. I'm sorry a few of you are in denial about this.

 

Children and foreigners need to have some screening mechanism on this web site, for their own protection. This photo proves it.

 

My 'score' on this photo is 6 for originality and 1 for aesthetics. Porn, to me, lack aesthetics.

 

Let's keep porn off this wonderful site.

"Really? This makes sense to you. I show my child a picture that offends your sensibilities and you think I have should have my child taken away from me. That's messed up. "

 

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In many states, showing porn to minors is sufficient basis to pull them out of the home.

 

I agree with this approach.

 

 

A screening system to protect foreigners and children from this kind of images?? And who set the rules?

Who will take decisions about what can I see -or my childrens- or not? Why? Who are ashamed about their parts? Why?

Who becomes nervous in front of the image of a vagina? Why??

why feminine genitals are bad or wrong or evil or nasty?

I am responsible for my child, and I take the decisions, not you or someone else. On the other hand, for sure you're not awared about the violent scenes in the TV series that normally millions of our childs are watching, neither TV news about the war violence, bombardment of civilians, crimes, bloodsheds and genocides. THAT scare me, THAT ashame me, THIS is obscene, and not only the images, but the act in itself. Then, leave me alone, dont bother me because you're interested in transferring your own sexual ideas to your childs. It's your right, do it, but don't try to do it with me. My little son know everything about the marvelous nature of the human body, and he is educated in order to enjoy it, not to hidden because it's sinful. A vagina? he never will be nervous or ashamed in front of a real one (when it happen... baaad thing, believe me) neither a photo. Sorry, I don't want to offend you but for me it's a medieval concept.

At all, here we must talk about other ideas, like artistic qualities, or technical skills, and everythings related with our central activity here in PN. Bad taste? for sure. Mediocre vulgar shots? Tons, believe me. But porno... come on, then you never seen real porno in your whole life.

Chip...first you suggest your 14 year old son to photo.net, then you are arguing that this is pornography and you shouldn't have suggested the site and how ludacris of photo.net to have this on their site. I'm sorry but, this is the first nude image you've seen on photo.net??? I'm sure not. It seems very stupid of you to ever suggest a photography website (except probably SportsShooters) to a 14 year old boy. Why? Because nude photography is a very large style/category in photography. Every single photo site will feature nude photography...get used to it. Why would you ever suggest a site to a 14 year old boy with thousands of nude images on it...im just not sure.

 

Secondly, this is absolutely not pornography. You have obviously not seen pornography if you thing this image is porn. This is unique, creative, and technically spot on in every way. This does not in anyway exploit or intentionally uncover a NATURAL BODY PART of a human being. In fact, it disguises it very well. (porno does not) To be very honest, I wasn't even sure what it was when viewing the thumbnail. You will know pornography on a thumbnail half the size of those on the homepage of photo.net!

 

I truly feel sorry for your son who has to deal with your conservative and overprotective parenting ways. (im being very blunt, yes). You can't keep their minds clean forever. You want grandkids afterall, right?? I think he will need to know what one of these is before that ever happens. I would hope at 14 year son would be mature enough to look at this image in an artistic way, rather than in attempts to............nevermind.

 

I am 18 and I am viewing this image with absolutely no issues. It is artistically, creatively, and technically one of the best images I have ever seen on photo.net and I have no issues viewing this purely artistically, not sexually.

 

We should be praising this image from Martin for its over-the-top creativity and out-of-the-box thinking.!! 100/100!!!!

Great work.

I know that the criticasters will come back to read the comments. What is it with people. Seeing someone?s head blow off can be shown any time. Violence is spread all the time but if you shown nude, yes people we all are if we don?t have any clothes on, then suddenly hell breaks loose. Is it OK that my 12 year old son plays Tekken on his PSP? Does the blood looks a bit real?

This is too mad. Love the idea, love the quality of the image. And if the next one is a penis in a sandwich, so what!

Seeing the number of comments it sure is a KILLER! ;-)

 

Chip, buddy, you don't have the foggiest notion what porn is. This ain't porn. It's a vagina. With condiments. It isn't remotely sexual, except perhaps in your own fevered brain.

 

You want porn? Tune in to "24" on Fox and watch 'super-agent Jack Bauer' torture some swarthy-looking bad guy for your viewing pleasure. It's a wonderful example of genitalia-free pornography.

 

As to your thoughts that agents of the state should invade my home and take my children from me merely for viewing human genitals, shame on you.

The best statement that someone wrote here: "This ain't porn. It's a vagina"

No more comments needed here. At all, after this non sense verbal battle I started to see this pic with tender... Oh mother! I'm a sinner now!!

Carlos we are all sinners...mother of god we must of seen one of these..."Vagina" things.... when we were born...right? This is were we all come from right...then we are all born of porn... Juan

 

 

Sorry Juan, I was trying to be funny... with poor success. And you're right, each one of us are coming from one of this marvelous part of the marvelous female anatomy. Indeed, I just love it, but not with onion nor peppers... ;-D)

Sorry...I too was trying to be funny...you were much more so!! My point as yours is...how can this be porn...it is where we ALL come from...Saludos... Carlos

Juan

Yes peppers give me gas too ;)...

Wow! That site is pretty cheesy. Oh.. wait.. some great stuff there. Bill Press' talents would fit right in there. He would be a star!

 

Just shows how good this site really is. The whinners should move to Fickr.

 

Just my opinion as always.

I am not aware that sexual organs with food stuck in them qualify as anatomical parts.

 

The sad thing about this is it is symptomatic of a major shift of PN from a global learning tool to, in part, a deviant-following clique. And this is deviant. Sorry to tell you. It's just not normal to stick food into sex organs and marvel at them as a piece of photo art.

 

I feel very out of place, frankly.

I have an idea about another non-pornographic and perfectly photo.netable photo. A photo of a gynaecological examination! How about that? A man dressed like a doctor with his hand fisted in a vagina! This is all ok! This is something normal and almost all the women experience this sometimes thus we could all post something like that, it wouldn`t be porn, and the photo should belong to the first place of the TRP!

Let`s do that! Freedom of speech!

Why shouldn`t we post scenes from a sexual act? It would depict a normal human behavior... I tell you that: this photo with the cuntburger is more obscene and perverted than a scene from a sexual act. At least the latter is something natural and normal and usefull.Even further! Let`s photograph a girl peeing! Why not? Are you ashamed of your bodies and of your physiological functions? Of course not! Don`t be so hypocrits! We all do that! Why shouldn`t we post things like that then?

Just some thoughts. Maybe will help you wake up and not play the devil`s lawyer ad infinitum. It has no sense and purpose to demonstrate that a grey garment can be white in a very-very bright light. You know why? Because usually the light is bright, very bright but not very-very bright, that means the garment will look almost all the time grey... I`m not sure if you can see my point here.

"Chip...first you suggest your 14 year old son to photo.net, then you are arguing that this is pornography and you shouldn't have suggested the site and how ludacris of photo.net to have this on their site. I'm sorry but, this is the first nude image you've seen on photo.net??? I'm sure not. It seems very stupid of you to ever suggest a photography website (except probably SportsShooters) to a 14 year old boy. Why? Because nude photography is a very large style/category in photography. Every single photo site will feature nude photography...get used to it. Why would you ever suggest a site to a 14 year old boy with thousands of nude images on it...im just not sure"

 

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Two days after this photo came up, it was the number one photo you saw when you clicked 'top rated photos'. Not 'nudes'.

 

What could be more easily accessible on a photography site than the top-rated photo? And that is unacceptable given that this is porn.

 

Which it is.

BTW, 'ludacris' is the ignorant mispelling of the name of a spoken language recording 'artist'.

 

Just so you know, dude.

To Darius, forgive my ignorance, but I can't see your point based on your example of the gray garment. About the matter, I agree with you just in one point, the rating sistem isn't too fair. That's all. But, what is the meaning of the ratings? For me the points are something like a candy, destinated to be a sweet to feed our egoes. No more. There are thousands of excellent photos underrated and another thousands of vulgarities overrated. So what? Then ratings aren't a reliable indicator of quality. And that's the end of the story. About nudity? Well, there are as points of view as persons in the whole world, then don't expect full agreements about nothing. At all opinions are like the asses, everyone has one. I respect your opinion and I will not try to convince you of the opposite, even sometimes is a constructive fact when I read your statements. But neither you nor I can impose or obligue other people to do what we think is right or good for them. We're adults, then behave as one.

To Chip, if you still viewing porn in a vagina, then I am so sorry because of you. But the same, your life is only yours. Enjoy as you want. I'll do my own.

Can't believe this joke is now at #5 for the top rated photos of the month.

Nor can I.

I think the originality and fun factor is at least 10. That's what photography is also about, right? to attract viewers with an unusual sight. jana