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Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce, special orders don't upset us, all we asks is that you let us SERVE IT YOUR WAY! "Ahhhh, yes, I'll take one HAPPY MEAL!" Is that it sir? "Yes, make sure I get the TOY with that!" OK, Thank you...drive through please!
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So photonet has finally become a porn site...indeed, a very perverted one.

 

Tell me again why this is NOT pornographic?

 

I had just recommended photonet to my son's digital photography class. And this pops up as the 'top photo'.

 

Really inexcusable.

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interesting... I mean, you are a very lucky man having a model that lets you do such things with her body;) Can be seen as "interesting", but apart the comic part into it after a while it remains the poor use that is being done universally of the female image... keep it without offense of course.

bests,

mkb

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Nice idea, always better if served fresh!!!

 

:-D Will you take another some photographs but with the subject already expired? hmmm, how about 70-80 years old expired...

Hahaha, asi nebudes mit zajem kdyz fotit stary burger...

 

 

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I like it, definitely caught my eye, but then I've got an eye for these things :)

 

I suppose if it's offending some people you've struck a nerve, personally to me it looks more like a burger and less like anything else it may be.

 

 

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Of COURSE not all nudity is porn.

 

This, for example, is nudity that IS porn.

 

Here's a simple litmus test...

 

Given that this is an open source and NOT FLAGGED web site, would you be OK with a 14 year old seeing THIS picture while going to the public library, doing homework for a digital photography class, checking on some good sources to learn from, entering PHOTO.NET, clicking on 'TOP PHOTOS'...and seeing this as the FIRST ENTRY?

 

Get real... it is a CLEVER photo, but it's porn and doesn't belong here.

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Chip, I see your point. Believe me, I do. The debate of whether if this is porn or not is...well up for debate. Personally, I think this type of photo is inappropriate for this site too and a few weeks ago it may have been removed, however, Philip Greenspun has posted a new Terms of Use for this site that allows pretty much anything. My fear is that more and more images like this will dominate the pages here and this site will no longer be known as a photography site, but rather a site that anyone can get acess to to get a cheap thrill.
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Give me a break. You can rant all you want about how this is porn, but there's a quadrillion other examples of nudity on this site that would then take the same label you're giving this one. What is porn?

 

To me porn is low grade imagery that is tasteless with few redeeming qualities, to say it off the cuff. This image is not that. It's creative, appetizing, humourous, and well shot. To a 14 year old it's probably not even clear what it is unless they've been reading porn magazines in the first place.

 

If the photographer were aiming to create the best porn shot of all time, I doubt they'd have spent the time sticking sesame seeds to a shaved beaver and stuffing it with condements. Give them a little credit.

 

In the public library there's a lot of nude images to be found, in art books for starters, and the kids surfing this site will probably find it boring if they're looking for naked women and smut, which they can find anywhere else on the net anyways.

 

Personally, I find the nude images on this site to be quite inspiring from a photography standpoint. I don't see many (if any) of them as porn.

 

Even if this shot weren't #1, there'd have been a boatload of other images not suitable for 14-year-olds, so perhaps it's best to either educate kids on the artistic qualities of these shots, or bar them from seeing them until they turn 18.

 

Touchy subject, but let's face it, kids can find far worse very easily, at least this image looks like a burger :)

 

 

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Ty se odvazujes, Martine, Very daring image, I was always wondering how the Czech burger would be like... cheers Jana

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Here's why this photo is PORN...and not mere 'nudity'

 

a) IT CONCENTRATES SOLELY AND SINGULARLY on a sexual organ, with intent to excite. We have several comments already that testify to that 'interpretation';

 

b) it presents said sexual organ in a way that is neither meant as 'artistic' nor 'medical', but as a sexual organ stuffed and covered with food, said food commonly eaten.

 

c) this is the type of photo expected and apparently commonly seen on porn web sites. Ergo, people go to PORN web sites with the expectation of seeing photos such as these, whereas mere 'nudity' for artistic reasons is apparently extraordinarily rare on porn sites.

 

d) in many countries you can be imprisoned for life for viewing such photos; you may be tortured; ostracized; and so on. This, in general, is not true for almost all 'nudity' shots.

 

Again, this photo is not worth the risk to young minds and viewers overseas to justify its inclusion here, IMO, without some type of screen to gate it.

 

I have no problem with the photo as a photo. I have a major problem with the photo as a super-easy-to find-and-see open source image.

 

Do those who take righteous indignation to this---so you have kids? Do you want THEM to see this while doing homework?

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"Even if this shot weren't #1, there'd have been a boatload of other images not suitable for 14-year-olds, so perhaps it's best to either educate kids on the artistic qualities of these shots, or bar them from seeing them until they turn 18."

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The first comment is, IMO, fatuous.

 

The second only proves my point; here's the sequence:

 

-- www.photo.net

 

-- TOP PHOTOS

 

-- INSTANT PORNOGRAPHY

 

How would you suggest I bar my 14 year old from seeing this? Ban him from photo.net? Should TOP PHOTOS be disclaimed as 'XXX adult material'? If so, where is that disclaimer?

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It all depends on where you draw the line with porn, and that is a line that is impossible to agree on. My problem with this image is how it got such high ratings; sure it's funny and maybe original, but in my opinion, there are loads of images that are far more deserving of this position of ratings. The long and short of it is; if you want high ratings, include a vagina, ass or tits and you will get high ratings, stick grass in the ass and it will become fine art with the title "YOUR ASS IS GRASS"

 

Oh... and if you do it with good lighting, you get double 7s.

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Hey Chip, fair comments, I can see where you're coming from.

 

That said, in the first few pages of top photos you can find full beaver shots, guys laying around with their units hanging out, you name it. Some photos that have received far less objections are set up so that the organs are the _only_ things in focus in the shot. I don't them overly offensive, same with this one.

 

There's no right or wrong on this one, but I still don't see how this image is any worse than many others on the site.

 

 

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It's too bad this is happening to Photo.net. PhotoSIG has already gone this way.... It's a well done photo but I don't think it's appropriate here. Especially since there isn't the rating system to lock mature photos from viewing by minors like PhotoSIG has.

 

sigh...

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