nikon geek Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I simply would like to know if infrared film can be shot in the N90s and the F100 and what the names of the two different frame counters are that affect the camera's ability to do so. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskovacs Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I call mine Bob and Doug. ;) Seriously, the offending type are infrared LED counters. Basically they use IR light transmission (doesn't expose normal film) to count the sprocket holes and tell the motors how much to advance and when to stop. A mechanical advance (for lack of a better term) just "knows" how far to advance the film and doesn't expose film with light of any wavelength. Sorry I don't have the first clue what kind of advance these cameras have so I can't help there. Often, even on cameras with this type of advance, the effect is limited only to the sprocket holes and doesn't show in the image frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Neither camera use light to detect film advance so IR film can be used without problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Neither the F100 nor the N90(s)/F90(x) use IR but rather the customary gear driven sprocket wheel to control film advance. --- My guess is that cameras that fog IR film use a diode that emits only IR (infrared light) then a sensor, an SPD that senses IR. SPD (silicone photo diodes) used in light meters have a blue filter (SBC, silicone blue cell) that cuts IR. An SPD without this filter should work. This IR system counts the sprocket holes needed to advance the film one frame. The use of IR with films that are not sensitive to IR posses no problems. The reason for using IR is to cut the cost of the camera both in parts and assembly. Hope this helps, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photojim Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 If the transport spool has teeth, it's a mechanical advance and is fine for IR film. If it doesn't, it's probably infrared and isn't fine. The F90x/N90s and F100 are fine with IR film. The F80 is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencer_hahn Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 There are cameras with transport spools that lack teeth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photojim Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Some don't have teeth. The teeth are only needed to count frames. Infrared counters do that and obviate the need for teeth. The take-up spool has firm grip of the film in either case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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