1d or 10d

[erik_van_bogaert]

I shoot mainly birds and with a 500 mm IS f4 lens , now i want a

digital body,i love the 10d for his (1:6) sensor,but is the 1d a

better camera than the 10d? but the downside is the (1:3) sensor.

help me on this one.

[walter_strong3]

If price means anything then the 1D should be the better of the two. HOWEVER, the 10D is nothing to scoff at and you should take a close look before paying thousands for the upscale modle.

[andrew robertson]

The 10D has better resolution and a more modern CMOS sensor. It is stunning for

long exposures. The 1D shoots faster, has a bigger buffer, and is built like a tank,

but it has more noise, and a smaller resolution.

[heatherforcier]

<p>I use the Canon 1D with the 500 f/4 and shoot mostly birds. The AF is great. I find with the 500 I am able to use teleconverters, 1.4x or 2x, with success. Having a 1.3x magnification (versus 1.6x) hasn't been a problem. Feel free to check my <a href=http://www.hforcier.com/birds/birds.htm>bird images gallery.</a></p>

 

<p>But I've seen files from the 10D. Although the anti aliasing filter makes for slightly softer images that require more sharpening, the colors are really great. I've even seen people use the 10D effectively for flight shooting, although for birds with erratic flight patterns I suspect it's much harder to pull off. I have not used the 10D myself but would enjoy having one for a digital backup.</p>

 

<p>Personally, I'm hoping for a Canon replacement to the 1D sometime soon. Although there have been rumors I don't know of anything concrete. I can hope, though!</p>

 

<p>Hope this helps.</p>

 

<p><a href=http://www.hforcier.com>Website at www.hforcier.com</a>

[brian_kennedy]

I think the 1D would be a better choice, since the AF is quicker and it allows you to use a 2x and maintain AF with your 500/4. However, the rumor is that it will be replaced very soon.

[andrew robertson]

I have had great results shooting birds in flight with my 10D and the 300 f/4L IS. I

find that even after using a wimbley head, a lighter lens and handholding give me

many more usable shots. The AF tracks quite nicely (when set on all-points active

'auto-af' I get more results than with manually chosen points).

 

You could pony up the cash for a 1Ds.

 

I'm also strongly looking at getting the 400 f/4 DO IS someday (when the price drops

a bit) simply because handholding that lens is a joy.

[micheal_kelly]

If you check the in-depth reviews at dpreview.com you will find the 10d has a significantly better noise response than either the 1d or the 1ds. This allows use of 400 iso which improves depth of field, faster shutters speeds or allows shooting in lower light conditions.

[don_baccus]

Arthur Morris ("Birds As Art") has recently been using the 10D almost exclusively for bird work, and particularly likes it for photographing birds in flight. As a Canon contract photographer he's got access to (and has used) both the 1DS and 1D ...

 

Check out his website (http://birdsasart.com) for more info.

 

The 10D gives you a bigger crop (1.6 vs. 1.3) and 6 megapixels vs. 4. Not only do you get greater resolution with the 10D but you won't have to use your teleconverter as frequently, and as great as the 1.4x is there's still some degradation of image quality when you use it ...

[yakim_peled1]

<P> I have not yet bought a DSLR but if I'll be able to afford the 1D, I'd certainly prefer it to the 10D. It is a <b>much</b> better body. Have a look <a href="http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-21-12.shtml">here</a>. </P>

 

<P> Happy shooting , <br>

Yakim. </P>

[c_terry]

Last year i was in the market immediately after returning from a trip to SW Florida doing a lot of bird photography (using a D30 and an eos 1 film body).

 

All during the trip my gripe was with the lack of AF performance on the D30.

 

The 10D was available when i was ready to buy, and i had the opportunity to use a 10D and 1D for two days to compare them.

I bought the 1D and found it an easy descision. My choice was based mostly on AF performance and weather resistance.

[c_terry]

I should explain, my decision making process was based mostly on "which tool will allow me to bring back more keepers from the field" than anything else.

I shoot a lot of motorsports which to me seems easy compared to birds.

[ShunCheung]

There are birds in flight and birds standing around not moving much. If you are talking about birds in flight or moving around quite a bit, AF performance can be an important factor.

[heron]

You should also remember that 4mpx compared to 6.3mpx is a big difference in the amount of crop you can do and in the size you can print.

[gregdowning]

<p>Regarding AM's experience with the 10D and birds in flight: He was basing that on a single trip to Bosque del Apache and shooting easy flying birds, such as cranes a geese. It works well for that but when it comes to fast fliers or low light situations it plain stinks and the 1D blows it away every time. That being said the image quality is better on the 10D but the buffer leaves a bit to be desired. There are times when the 10D just plain won't work for a particular shot because of the slow buffer and, more importantly, the slow shutter lag.</p> <p> Attached is an image that was taken with the 1D (a straight shot BTW) that could not have been accomplished with the 10D for these reasons.</P> <a href="http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6512 " >HERE</a> is a link to the the image with a descroption on how it was made.

 

<p>My solution? Own both! If you can't have both each has it's limitations and you need to decide what is important to you. FWIW I shoot with the 10D whenever I can because of the Superior image quality, but the 1D proves useful for many situations where the 10D doesn't cut the mustard.</p>

 

<p>Hope this helps.</P>

 

Greg Downing / <a href="http://www.naturescapes.net" >NatureScapes</a><div></div>

[jmichaelc]

I would have to disagree and say that the 10D is eaisly capable of producing a shot as greg posted. It may take a tad bit more skill on the end of the photographer, rather than having to depend on the equipment, but it is eaisly possible.

[jmichaelc]

Great shot though Greg.