chris_tennyson1 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Dont suppose someone here can point me to some images taken with Leica Screw mount lenses, any will do, though specificly, the Summaron 3.5cm f3.5 and Elmar 5cm f3.5 are the two im looking at that are with the IIIC body. I've looked everywhere and can't find any images taken with them to see how the quality is, just a bunch of photos of them. they are sitting right here, I know what they LOOK like :P I wanna know what they produce ;) thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkpainter Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 http://www.henricartierbresson.org/hcb/home_fr.htm jmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcafe Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Sorry, John, but many of Cartier-Bresson's most famous images (probably not "Gare Saint-Lazare" but those taken later in his career), were not made using a Leitz/Leica lens @ all--for a long time he favored the Carl Zeiss Jena 50/1.5 Sonnar in LTM, as all the high-speed Leitz/Leica lenses until the Summilux sucked in comparison. He also favored the 50mm focal length, so that mostly knocks the 35/3.5 Summaron out, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 The only time I saw him in person (c.1981), he was using a black-rim Summar from the '30s. Also, his most famous image, "Picnic on the Banks of the Marne," was surely made with a 35mm Elmar (the only W.A. from Leica at the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Please try some of James Ravilious' work. He used a 5cm f3.5 Elmar with an M3 and an adaptor. He favoured the pre-war uncoated lenses... http://www.england-in-particular.info/images/orchard/ravilious.jpg http://www.corrugated-iron-club.info/images/i-rav.jpg http://www.cannsdownpress.co.uk/jpg/d16.jpg http://www.cannsdownpress.co.uk/jpg/d47.jpg http://www.cannsdownpress.co.uk/jpg/d20.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 My first Leica had an ancient 50 Elmar (10 o�clock tab) and the front element was corroded enough to serve as coating. I wish I still had that lens. I have a 35 Summaron, still one of the best lenses I have ever owned. I have an M6 and more modern lenses now but as I get longer in the tooth I tend to return to the earlier screw mount cameras and lenses. You can�t go wrong with them and it would take an extraordinarily qualified expert to distinguish their images from those made with contemporary equipment. Supplement those lenses with a 90 Elmar and you'll have an outfit that'll never embarrass you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_talbot Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Chris, Try: http://www.peeble.com/ Roger C is a Forum member and has a site with beautiful B&W and color photographs taken with his 50mm f/3.5 Elmar and his 50mm Summar. It's amazing to see what the older Leitz optics are capable of! Regards, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiblanke Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Two years ago I happened to run across a 3,5/3,5 Summaron LTM and a 3,5/3,5 Elmar (I already had and still have a 35/2.8 Summaron-M). The results of all three lenses were pretty equal and I kept the M-Mount due to convenience (no adaptor and normal filters) and since it was the most used one. Results of esp. the coated ones are very nice and only a bit less contrast than modern lenses, which is something some people like and some not. Both are still great lenses, but for a 35mm LTM I still would look also for the Jupiter-12/Biogon copy, which is just quite a bit cheaper and easier to find. <p> Unfortunately the only pictures I have available are those of the Summaron, believe me, the others are quite similar.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiblanke Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Sorry for the small size, the larger one can be found <a href="http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=315922"> here </a>. The other BW picture next to it was also shot with the '53 (?) 3,5/3,5 Summaron in LTM on a M2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Ghantous Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 In a week or two I will receive a Summar I purchased from an overseas seller. I intend to make the first roll transparency film anyway so if you want to e-mail me later I can send you some scans. You're welcome to suggest subject material but I'm just going for grass, sky and stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlos_borges Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Hello CHRIS. You'll soon find some photos here taken with old LEICA SM cameras and lens and old ROLLEI TLR. Please mark this site http://www.carlosborges.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_k. Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Chris, Here are two shots from my uploads using the LTM Summaron on Fuji 400. I also have lens tests comparing Summitar,Summicron and Summaron. http://www.photo.net/photo/1547134 http://www.photo.net/photo/1552786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Always regret selling my 50mm 1:3.5 "Red Scale" Elmar! For that matter, I always regret having sold ANY Leica equipment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Here are 4 photos of the World Trade Center demolition. Dec. 2001. Beware, these are TIFF files about 0.5 mb each, so they may be slow to download. Elmar 5 cm f/3.5, a 1951 model (coated), no filters but hood. Film: Kodak b+w C-41. This was not a red-scale Elmar, but the serial number coincided with the numbers usually attributed to the red scales. http://www.canufly.net/~moranga/WTC-Dec2001-1.tif http://www.canufly.net/~moranga/WTC-Dec2001-2.tif http://www.canufly.net/~moranga/WTC-Dec2001-3.tif http://www.canufly.net/~moranga/WTC-Dec2001-4.tif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor_cruz1 Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Don't have and have never used the elmar, but here are two photos taken with the summaron. <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/1881942">#1</a> and <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/1881948">#2</a>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tennyson1 Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 As soon as i get to work and have a chance, i will check all of these links, but Thank you all very much for your patience in giving me your opinions. Leica forums have always had a stigma of being an intimidating bunch of people, but i've always found you all very pleasant and helpful so thanks again. :) btw, i used to use a different id here, so I have been here more than the my join date suggests :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grg Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 <center><img src="http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=2236308&size=md"></center><p> <center><i>Summitar 50mm/f2</i></center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve g Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Here are some shots I've taken with my Elmar 5cm/3.5:<br><br>All of these are w/o the aid of a lightmeter<br><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093221">Fuji Astia 100 #1</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093222">Fuji Astia 100 #2</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093223">Fuji Astia 100 #3</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093119">Fuji Astia 100 #4</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093117">Fuji Astia 100 #5</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093118">Fuji Astia 100 #6</a><br><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/26160186">Fuji NPH #1</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/26160187">Fuji NPH #2</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/26413855">Fuji NPH #3</a><br><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093135">Ilford Delta 3200</a><br><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27207505">Ilford HP5+ #1</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/27093167">Ilford HP5+ #2</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/25694869">Ilford HP5+ #3</a><br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/25694867">Ilford HP5+ #4</a><br> <br><a href="http://www.pbase.com/image/26160192">Ilford FP4+</a><br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tennyson1 Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 Thank you all once again for the links and encouragement. I am leaning very much towards making the purchase, I think i will be quite pleased with it. It wont replace my Contax T2 for b/w photography, but it will be a nice compliment to it i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Andrew Morang: There is an article in a recent LHSA VIEWFINDER about the Red Scale Elmar. Apparently those lenses within the proper serial number frame but without the red paint are properly considered �red scale� by most knowledgeable collectors as well as informed users, but because they do not have the apparent identification as such can often be obtained at a significant saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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