otto_hinrichs Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Heard repeatedly from reliable sources that Leica M7 is a technological and marketing failure (bad meter control of shutter / viewfinder full of useless distracting information and flashing warning lights)and release/launch of Leica MP is proof of Leica desparation to avoid bankrupty. What truth ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__ly_tu Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 yes. is true. will be seeking contributions soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakley Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Saving others some trouble, Google can tell you a lot about the truth: http://www.leica-camera.com/unternehmen/ir/berichte/index_e.html http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/Leica_M7.shtml http://www.leica-camera.com/kultur/haende/partner/index_e.html http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/htm/TreePf_MAG.aspx?E=29YL53UIA@O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Yeah, what photographer in their right mind would use such a piece of junk? It can't even take a picture:<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 If you've heard it repeatedly from reliable sources, why do you ask here? Its not like the M7 was designed by Joe Galamb or something. Jeez..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_a Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 What's that smell??? It's a troll! Account created today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 If the Hermes and Hammerschlag editions don't keep 'em out of bankruptcy, nothing will! ;>)) Best regards, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_mcbride Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I've finally learned to not pay any attention to sh*t like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil_baylis Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 No Jim, you haven't quite learned yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto_hinrichs Posted December 8, 2003 Author Share Posted December 8, 2003 All your potests are reassuring but then why the MP? - If battery failure in the M7 is unknown, shutter speeds in the M7 more accurate and overiding DX film speed not an issue despite a continuous flashing warning diode in the viewfinder, then the M7 should blow the MP away in auto and manual mode. So one more time WHY the MP, if not to combat failing sales of the M7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Why the MP? To paraphrase Jay, it's target market is the <i>metrosexual</i> male who wants to accessorize, but isn't secure enough in his masculinity to just carry a man-purse. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I think the M6 should have been kept and the MP made as a special model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip_williams Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 1. This post is clearly a troll 2. The MP was introduced as a "retro mechanical" model, not an M7 replacement. 3. I've never heard of anyone with severe or serious M7 issues. Mine works great. 4. Bad meter control? I've never had any meter or shutter issues. 5. Useless and distracting information? Compares to the modern, AF camera, it's positively sparten: shutter speed in AE and arrows/dot in manual, + tiny dots for warnings. 6. Flashing warning lights? Yea, they flash when you do something wrong or want to override the camera. Ignore it. 7. Leica may still go under, but with LVMH behind them, I doubt it. The R line will be the first thing to go if any draconian measures happen. The digital line is coming along just fine with Panasonic footing most of the development bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Hey, I love automation as much as the next guy, but I bought my MP because there are times when I wish to be independant of batteries. Although automation can be fun and convenient, I'll never trust it completely and surrender all control to a robot. Also, I'm an old fart, and the controls of the MP are the sort of controls upon which I cut my teeth in photography. Yes, the MP is "retro", but so am I! Best wishes, Bill. OK, Otto, troll away!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_.1 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Let's talk about the photo- Ray that is great. Love how her foot is stepping into the shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Otto, I've heard repeatedly, from reliable sources, that Leica brought out the MP just to push your buttons. Whats wrong with vanilla and chocolate, color and black and white, two door and four door, stout and lite... Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Skip: I could not agree more emphatically. This is troll-land and a few of our forum members got snared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto_hinrichs Posted December 8, 2003 Author Share Posted December 8, 2003 Gentlemen, thank you for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_menilli Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I've been told repeatedly from an extemely reliable source , that this ©razy ®epititious (A)bsurd (P)utrefaction is just unfounded - crap! Please excuse my language,as I realise I cannot say here, how I really feel, so I've toned it down. Regards Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_menilli Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I've also been told repeatedly from an extemely reliable source , that this ©razy ®epititious (A)bsurd (P)utrefaction is just unfounded - crap! Please excuse my language,as I realise I cannot say here, how I really feel, so I've toned it down. Regards Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_menilli Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Sorry for the repetition! but in a way, maybe it was meant to be, that it should be stated twice. Regards Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Good Doctor, Have a look at your THIRD post in photo.net about filters and multi-coating. Did I (C.C.) call you a troll? Everyone has a first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 CC: This is a troll and everyone but you seems to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Good Doctor (I hope), A user, new or not, deserves a serious answer to a serious question. With the advent of digital, etc., one has to ask before buying, as I interpreted the post to suggest; read between the lines. Were you trolling with your third post about protective filters, that had been hashed over ad infinitum? BTW, don't get intellectual with your comments. Need I remind you, an M.D. degree is a matter of choice, not as a sign of superiority, as 50% of all that apply are accepted. So, get off your high horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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