trevor_saint Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Hi all, I am using a canon EOS 10D. I have been asked to capture some evening photos of a building society as I have developed their web site in work. The building is quite big, and has large neon like bright logo displays. I attempted to capture this at night and failed. The manager even put on the building lights to improve some of the lighting on the building itself, which did lighten the scene a little. But again my problem was the neon type glow coming from the logos. I do want to capture this building at the very best I can but really need some help and guidance on the subject. I always shoot in RAW format as I am not 100% confident and like the ability to adjust without affecting the quality to much. I understand quite a bit about photography and exposures etc, but always seem to find myself battling against the impossible. The photo outcome was that the logos themselves were really over exposed and the building very dark if seen. Please help me. I think, in order to capture a better picture, if no one advises me is to hit that time where I have some light as my aid, rather than shooting in total darkness. Its just I have seen images before of this nature and it�s always good to know how to better one self. Thank you Trevor Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark pav Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 <i>"I think, in order to capture a better picture, if no one advises me is to hit that time where I have some light as my aid, rather than shooting in total darkness.</i><br><br> That would have been my suggestion. If you have the patience you could set your tripod up, take a shot with a bit of ambient light still around and then, when it gets dark, take another and merge them on PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony_m1 Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 If you were to meter the neon light and then meter the rest of the building I am sure you will have 2 dramatically different readings. I do a lot of night city scapes, but I dont mind blowing out the neon. I think you may have to get creative in photoshop with this one. Taking 2 images, one exposed for the neon and one exposed for the rest. Please post your results if you can. AJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleksandar_kujucev1 Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 I assume that you are using a tripod and remote cord. Just make few shots of the same scene with different exposures. First, expose for the neon signs and then go for the correct exposure for the building in the next shot - or go the other way round :-) In Photoshop you can stack those shots in different layers and play with blending (double click on a layer - hold alt and drag those markers apart to get gradual transparency in dark or light areas) or use eraser to remove overexposed neon signs and reveal correctly exposed ones in a layer beneath. Or combine both methods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnrwoods Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 It also sounds like you, perhaps, had too long of a shutter speed and it made the neon lights expand and get fuzzy? Therefore almost unreadable. You'll want to get as fast a shutter speed as you can, so try out like 1600 iso and maybe a shutter of 1/2(and faster) and see if it's bright enough to get away with. And bracket your shots too and play around. You're bound to get something that will work if you vary your shots enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staticlag Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 If you really wanted the shot to come out how you have envisioned it, hire some industrial lighting people to come out and light it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_simon5 Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Try shooting at dusk, before it really gets dark. Actually, if you set up late afernoon and give yourself a few minutes between exposures you should find the one that works best for you. Never shot digital in this situation, but here's how it works with slides - take your shots just after dusk, while there's still some light in the sky. Meter directly from a patch of nothing but sky and let everything else fall where it wants to. The instant feedback of digital should help here. Don't know what the range of 10D is, but it can't be worse than slide film. Give it a try, let us know how it works. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_robinson2 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Trevor, I've taken some shots of Queen Mary 2 at Night and I am pleased with the result. You do get some flare from bright lighting but that adds to the picture. I shot at f22 for 20 seconds from a tripod some 400 metres from the subject with 24-70 lens. I am assuming you want the picture to represent your ability with the camera. Always more rewarding that fixing it in Photoshop and these settings were the best for me. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_hawkins Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 This is a classic problem and the answer is to shoot at dusk or dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor_saint Posted February 22, 2004 Author Share Posted February 22, 2004 Thank you for all your feedback on this topic. I have included some photos of the shoot for The Hanley. You can see how they came out, by looking in the Hanley folder for my portfolio section. Any feedback be it good or bad would be appreciated, as I am eagar to learn how to do things better. Regards Trevor Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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