jon_dicks Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 I currently have an old Canon A40 and I want to upgrade to either a Nikon Coolpix 5400 or Canon G5. I do not want to make the jump to a DSLR yet as I am a minolta user and am waiting for the Minolta DSLR's to hit the shelves. I want to upgrade to a good compact. Any thoughts on which of the above is the better camera? I have all the read reviews I can find but would like to hear from people who have used them for a few months. There seems to be confusion over which camera will give the better image quality. Thanks Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_herring Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Stay in touch on this!!!---I'm in the same boat. I love the A40 and the biggest motivation for an upgrade is a longer zoom. The 5400 and G5 are both 1/1.8 sensors, and both are 4X zoom. The biggest difference I see is that the 5400 goes down to 28mm equivalent. The G5 has the faster lens. I'd expect the image qualtiy to be similar I'm considering the Nikon 5700: larger sensor and wider zoom. I wont miss the wide angle end, since I have started using stitching for all the wide angle stuff (where the subject most often holds still!) With the rebate, the 5700 is now under $600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_dicks Posted February 17, 2004 Author Share Posted February 17, 2004 Thanks Mark, I have almost convinced myself to just get the new A80 to tide me over. I am not comfortable with the suitability of the S50, G5 or Coolpix 5400. The 5700 has not dropped in price in Europe yet. The G5 is quite cheap over here at about $399.00. The S50 is only slightly cheaper which seems weird to me. So the question is - Nikon with less funny purple colours and good macro or the G5 with sharper images. I just don't want to spend a lot of money only to be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bauer2 Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 I was in an identical situation. I decided I wanted something to tide me over until I settled on a DSLR. When I first started shopping, both of the cameras you mentioned were in the $800 ballpark. You might have noticed that the G5 is getting the distinctly more enthusiastic reception. I ended up continuing to play around with a digital Elph, but still felt the need for something more robust. When prices plummeted on eBay, I decided to make my move. For me, the wide angle lens was the deciding factor -- so I got the Coolpix 5400. I paid $440 for it on eBay. I must say, I can see immediately why this camera isn't getting glowing reviews. It focuses poorly in low light, and the commands are maddening. The manual focus is the worst I've seen in a point-and-shoot, and I must own 10 film point-and- shoots. With that said, I have learned to use the 5400 and it does take very good pictures, in fact. There are a number of scene modes that will help work around the camera's weaknesses. It's wonderfully light and quiet. If the wide angle is not important to you, I would barely recommend it -- ask for it for a birthday present! Do not spend $500 on this camera. I was disappointed when I started using it, very. But I've been using it more and more -- although I doubt I will still use this camera in two years. In fact, I'm already drooling over the new Panasonic/ Leica Lumix. At about four times the price of my 5400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
river side Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 A80 has 1/1.8" CCD, no external flash, no TIFF or RAW and no remote.. that pushes it down a notch when compared with the more expensive 5400 or 5700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbudway Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 I have a 5400 that I am generally pretty happy with. Here are some things I do not like -- As stated earlier the manual focus feature is useless, low light pictures are very diffucult (true of all digicams), contols are very complex, and lastly (and this prob. doesn't matter for most), if you want to use the self timer you can only do so with the auto focus set to close-up, soooo (because the manual focus does not function) it is impossible to, say, take a family portrait with the timer, or take a 10 second night shot without the act of pushing the shutter release button blurring the pic. Things I do like -- very small and extremely well built, great ergonomics, wide angle, dizzying array of features, outstanding close-up perfomance, and you can easily sharpen up the pictures using the included software. I could just as easliy have chosen the G5 and would probably be at least as happy with it. I would check out the Olympus offerings. I know the reviewers aren't as enthusiastic about the picture quality, but the 5050/5060?, I think, have the wide angle AND the fast lens, and many posters here rave about them. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_dicks Posted February 17, 2004 Author Share Posted February 17, 2004 I have just been looking at the C5060. No proper review on dpreview yet but some other reviews I found seem to think it is a great camera with low noise etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bauer2 Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Ron, actually it is possible to use the Self-timer for family portraits, night landscapes, etc. You may choose, in the Scene mode menu, "landscape." That will fix the focus at infinity. Then press AF twice and the timer will come up. Crazy, I know, but it does work. Also, you can first choose the nearly-unusable manual focus BEFORE selecting the timer. If you use a small aperture (or flash), you can work with the depth of field and estimate the distance. It does work, although it really highlights the many poorly designed features of this camera. On the bright side, I have a semi-pro job tomorrow night -- and the silent Museum mode will come in handy. This is after spending thousands on Leicas and Silent Hexars. I highly advise reading the admittedly very bad manual again and again -- several features will become illuminated. In the end, I would advise a buyer to wait a few months -- surely better wide- angle cameras will be on the market. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 There's a few feature differences between the cameras, but there are huge ergonomic differences. What that means is that you need to test both cameras, at least at the store, and find out what you prefer. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbudway Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Steve -- Thanks for the tip. That's what I get for thinking scene modes are beneath me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bauer2 Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Ron, Happy to help. :-) I too used to think that these Scene modes and Auto-everythings that are on most of today's cameras were for Dummies. Au contraire. If you read how they work -- the fixed f-stops and focus distances -- they are the thinking photographer's best friends. As I said in my "review," the Scene modes are the key to getting the most from this intensely confusing, anti-intuitive camera. Happy snapping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel_kazmierczyk1 Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 i don't know the coolpix, and have only G3 not G5. But since the latter two are almost identical, here is my take on the G3/5: PRO: - fantastic for self-photography (remote control included in the kit), and you can zoom in and out, and THEN focus on the middle of the frame - great swivel/turn around LCD display - check out dpreview to see how it works, but it is VERY uselful - battery life is very good (but you will still want a spare battery) - ergonomics is good- most buttons are where they should be, and the camera is intuitive. Most useful functions (white balance and ev compnesations) are avaialble directly via a cursor control CON: - low light focusing is poor - manual focus is nearly useless Overall, i like G3. But is lacks the wide angle mode - check out Minolta A1, it has a good range of features and costs some 650USD (adorama) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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