fredus Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Even if Leica comes up with a digital M, I don't want it ! I still want to be able to pop film in my M6, shoot my 36 pictures roll in the afternoon or more, send the film to my lab, wait 1 week to receive my prints and see the result. Get exited when I open the package, discover shots I forgot, see the magic of my summicron at work, keep the bad shot as well and rediscover them a month or a year later and go outside and shoot again instead of spending 2 hours in front of the computer with photoshop. My opinion anyway. Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_hilmersen1 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Me too actually - so I will not buy one. The whole concept seems strange to me. The leica community attacks cameras lice the Hexar RF for being battery dependent - and now they want a digital version... And....most digital cameras are already very quiet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_.1 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I like color slide film. Like looking into a window of reality. Cheap and simple too, unless you shoot compulsively or professionally. If a digital M eventually gets down to say 1.5-2 times the price of the film body, then maybe I'd be interested. Maybe not though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansley_yunez Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 good for u fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_ball1 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Apart from the cost why do we have to be on one side or the other? I'm sure like most Leica users I have more than one camera. Sometimes I shoot 35mm film and sometimes digital. I do like the idea that one day (again cost permitting)I will be able swap my m body and shoot digtal for a while and then swap back again, all the time using the same lenses. For me I can't see digital replacing film, it'll merely add another aspect to my hobby. What I don't like about digital though, is that it makes you lazy. I tend to twiddle the knobs and press the buttons until I get the shot I like. Film photography requires more consideration and forethought and is hence the essence of this wonderful hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Enjoy it while you can...;)...J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markci Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 So don't buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Nobody's pointing a gun to your head forcing you to buy a digital M. In fact if you're one of those who believes you'll be shooting film 10 years from now I doubt that a bullet would find much to damage even if it could penetrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_stanton2 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Lotso comp'nies make lotso products you don't have to buy. It really would be kinda sucky if manufacturers made only the stuff YOU want. [C'mon, everyone! Pile on!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_ball1 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 so presumably Jay, anyone who has recently bought an M body with the intention of using it for a good number of years is an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absinthe Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I don't wat to buy Skippy Chunky Peanut Butter because I like my peanut butter smooth! SO THERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 <<so presumably Jay, anyone who has recently bought an M body with the intention of using it for a good number of years is an idiot?>> No, only those with the *expectation* of using it for a good number of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_ball1 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 <<No, only those with the *expectation* of using it for a good number of years>> So it's ok to have the expectation that the we won't be using film, but not ok to have the expectaion that we will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tod_hart Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I had a former neighbor who in his early seventies, after his wife died, moved to another city and bought a house with a thirty year mortgage. I'm not sure what his intentions or expectations were. But he had a neat old Exakta Vx that he still used as his only camera. He took it with him when he moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 <<So it's ok to have the expectation that the we won't be using film, but not ok to have the expectaion that we will?>> By George, I think he's got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Simon, anyone who disagrees with Jay, on any subject, is an idiot. That's just life on the Leica forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprouty Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Battery dependent? You mean this thing will need batteries? That's bull-crap! I want a fully mechanical M or I'm not buying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Fortunately, it's a relatively benign form of idiocy. I don't want or need a riding lawnmower (I'm allergic to yardwork), so Leica shouldn't waste its time developing one of those, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 <<Simon, anyone who disagrees with Jay, on any subject, is an idiot. That's just life on the Leica forum.>> That's just life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_.1 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I think ya'all is missin' da point. Is Leica going to be able to sell enough of the digital M's? Will that digital Bessa steal the thunder? Surely if the Bessa comes out first and gives adequate results, the niche market for Leica will be even smaller. Given all that though, I'm sure they will sell enough- look at the MP (is it selling well?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto_watson_garc_a Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I agree with you Fred, I aslo prefer to have pictures on silver, on the other side having a digital M body out in the market will be good for the future development of the M system, even if there are still users that will prefere to use a regular film body. it will help un the development of new lenses. Leica AG explains that things are not as easy as set a digital back to an M body, because distance of M lenses to film plane is very reduce and digital sensors can´t read ligth at certain angle, that´s what I understood, still I think it can be fixed by developing the rigth sensor, maybe with a special glass that will cost say $3K, still many of us leica users that owns say $12K in leica lenses would opt to add a digital body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I think Leica should develop a housing for digital cameras that looks like an MP. Like those water-proof housings you can buy for P&S cameras. Might sell... ;>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 <<Is Leica going to be able to sell enough of the digital M's? Will that digital Bessa steal the thunder? Surely if the Bessa comes out first and gives adequate results, the niche market for Leica will be even smaller. Given all that though, I'm sure they will sell enough- look at the MP (is it selling well?).>> There you go James! Just look at the M7. It sold well despite being twice the price and half the camera as the Hexar RF. Leica didn't even need the assassination attempt with the bogus back-focus/incompatibility ploy and Konica's gullible, greed-fueled complicity therein. Leica can count on a certain sales volume if they stuck a red dot on a turd, in fact in figurative terms they've done just that many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_.1 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 lol- a Leica turd...that's gotta be a new one. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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