leicamania Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Please let me know condition, price and full serial numbers. Many Thanks,Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_a. Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I know I saw a nice one one the LUG yesterday, but now can't find it. I think sometimes they are listed in emails but not archived on the website: http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 spend $200 on a canon 50/1.2 to see if you REALLY want a noctilux. the t stop is .1 different (the noct if f1.1 per puts while the canon is 1.2) and the size and weight is much less with the kwanon. i also happen to think the contrast performance is better with the canon (when properly shaded -- the noct is THE lens for lens hood haters as the flare rejection is nothing short of phenomenal). save $1500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 on camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre_cantin Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_. Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Nice example, Roger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Here I have a 50mm F1.2 Canon; and a 50mm F1.0 Noctilux. The Noctilux is really a F1.0 lens in the central core; and the Canon a F1.2 in the central core. The Noctilux is 1/2 stop faster that the Canon F1.2 lens; but cost alot more. The Canon may be good enough for your application. My Noctilux is better at F1.2 than the Canon; and about the same at somewhere about F2.8 to F4. The Canon is usable on LTM bodies; Russian bodies; Canon LTM bodies etc. With the Noctilux; you are stuck with Leica M series. The Noctilux has excellent flare resistance. Many buy a Noctilux; and quickly sell it after the honeymoon phase is over. Both fast lenses request and acurrately focused rangefinder. I like both lenses; I use the Canon 50mm F1.2 LTM on a Zorki body for more risky environments. The infintiy focus lock on the Canon F1.2 is abit annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Here the film appears abit rough; maybe abit to sloppy with the processing. Shot at Halloween while visting some friends at an away game. Canon 50mm F1.2 @F1.2 either 1/10 or 1/25 second; Zorki3c; handheld.<BR><BR><IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-349.jpg> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I agree with Kelly. The Canon is big time compact compared to the Noct', which I own. I got mine for $200, and it's my thavel Noct'. Stopped down it warrants an everyday/all day lens, a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 yes, thank goodness kelly thought of suggesting the 1.2! as for kelly's sample shot, which he has posted here before, there is something seriously wrong with the grain structure in that picture. please do not think that the photo in any way depicts the typical performance of the canon. without regard to aesthetics, my sample shot is a far better indication of the quality of the canon lens. put the canon and noct on your leica. meter the same subject. the difference is less than half a stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamania Posted February 8, 2004 Author Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi Guys, Thanks for all the wonderful photos, advise and comments. (Honestly, I wasn't even expecting anything from a typical WTB ad). Firstly, I must compliment Roger's photo. I have used Canon RF 50/1.2 about 6 years back(for 2 weeks) and could not remember seeing this kind of results - specifically, sharpness in the center and no flare. Looks like this lens is worth investigating again. The problem is that its hard to come by. Also, I heard the original hood costs more than the lens. Secondly, I do not have any issues using Noct, 75 Summilux etc at full aperture. As a habit, I always "bracket" my focusing and exposure anyway. This may result in more film usage, but capturing the right moment and light has always been challenging. Cheers, Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Roger, nice try! LOL! If this "selective focus illustration" isn't a massive PS fake you may call me nuts. Strange the girl in focus is the only one to get light from the left, not right as everybody else... Please reveal the fraud and don't let this one slip uncommented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Roger; you are correct; the grain structure in my photo is total crap. I used TMX 400 from a bulk roll; and may have shocked the films emulsion or something. This is also a cropped section too; but it still is abit poor. Maybe I can dig up a better sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Noctilux Wide open:<BR> <IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-322.jpg> <BR> <A HREF=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-323.jpg target = "_blank"> <IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/thumbs/tripods-323-thumb.jpg BORDER=0></A> <BR><BR> <A HREF=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-324.jpg target = "_blank"> <IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/thumbs/tripods-324-thumb.jpg BORDER=0></A><BR><BR><BR> Summicron LTM new 50mm F2 @F2<BR> <A HREF=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-209.jpg target = "_blank"> <IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/thumbs/tripods-209-thumb.jpg BORDER=0></A> <BR><BR>Canon 50mm F1.2 @F1.2<BR> <A HREF=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-211.jpg target = "_blank"> <IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/thumbs/tripods-211-thumb.jpg BORDER=0></A> <BR><BR> Russian Industar 50 50mm F3.5 @F3.5<BR> <A HREF=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-210.jpg target = "_blank"> <IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/thumbs/tripods-210-thumb.jpg BORDER=0></A> <BR><BR>Full frame shot; done with Industar-50 @F3.5<BR> <IMG SRC=http://www.ezshots.com/members/tripods/images/tripods-213.jpg> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 The B&W was scanned with a Canon FS4000US 4000dpi/ppi scanner. It shows all the warts in the film grain; or mottle. The color shots were scanned many years ago; with a Canon 2710 scanner; a 2720 dpi/ppi device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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