manuel_de_la_rua Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Locally,it's possible to purchase the DMC-LC33 for $200.00. It has a Vario-Elmarit zoom labeled Leica. I wonder whether this a Leica optic and is it a twin of the Digilux 1. Does any one have info and or experiences they could share. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 There is a Panasonic equivalent, or so they say, to the Digilux 1. I don't know the model number. The digilux 1 has a Vario-Summicron, however, so the DMC-LC33 with its Vario-Elmarit apparently would not be equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland_larson Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 The Panasonic twin of the Digilux 1 is DMC-LC5 : http://prodb.matsushita.co.jp/product/info.do?pg=04&hb=DMC-LC5 When they're launched, there was a price difference of approx USD 100 here in Hong Kong, though I guess it's more or less level today as either has seen its peak. Sources suggest that Leica optics for Panasonic d-cams are mfg in Japan. A non- issue, since they are good enough to bear the Leica emblem :) FYI, Leica lenses on Leica and Panasonic twins are identical. Both pictures downloaded from respective websites.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacey_smith4 Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Incidentally, I'm certainly no expert, using none of the above, but i did note (in a discount office store) that there is a bigger brother to the lc33 -- I think the lc40 -- which jumps the resolution (same lens) to a 4 megapixel body (slightly differnet style). goodness, these styles and features cahnge every few months. It is a minor jolt to see a Leica lens marketed in a discount office supply chain -- maybe it will help them survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl smith Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Panasonic is a part of the largest electronics manufacturer in the world, its a good thing Leica is playing buddies with someone. Aside from the lens, the Digilux is basically an (imo uglier) version of the panasonic camera previously mentioned. same lens, and same innerds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 <<...and same innerds>> i.e., innards made by nerds -- must be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 I'll bet this is one of Leica's most profitable ventures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_parnaby Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 *Not* the same innards --- the same lens, but the Leica versions are different in terms of design/form factor, different in terms of the firmware, and different in terms of the total outfit. The Leicas typically come with larger capacity SD cards, an extra battery, and a better software bundle (i.e., Photoshop Elements). Leica is sharing development costs with Panansonic (a good thing), and certainly making use of their electronics, but their versions are much better quality and have a great deal of value added which justifies the difference in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl smith Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Jeffrey, perhaps you don't understand what I mean by innerds. That's the sensor, processing units, ADC and so on. Sure, they give you a different battery (why not to make things difficult) or a bigger memory card (its supposed to be a higher end camera), and different firmware (wouldn't be too good if it said panasonic now would it?). But the electronics on the inside are largely the same, because for the most part the camera is made by panasonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric__damn_those_seagulls_1664877331 Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Why are you even looking at the Pannason... sorry Leica Digilux 1? Leica digicams are inferior, overpriced offerings. Leica are just scamming consumers, trying to draw comparisions between the m-series and this camera. Don't waste your time... your best bet is either a canon (s50 or g5) or a sony (v1). They cost less, have better image quality, software, electronics etc, etc. If you want something wider than 35mm(equivalent focal length) go for the Nikon 5400 (but this camera does have some other drawbacks). The Minolta A1 and Sony 828 look good if you're willing to spend a little more and both have very good zoom lenses (the 828 looks to have an excellent Carl Zeiss T* zoom). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl smith Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Right now the best consumer digi cams (P&S cameras) are coming from Canon and Olympus IMO. I'd suggest a look at what they're offering, the optics and overall image quality area always good given what you're paying for them. Also, they're generally quite user friendly with a good feature set and they are built well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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