marc schneider dc metro Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 In Moose Peterson's Guide to Wildlife Photography, he states that witha 1.4x TC you retain 40% of the depth of field of the effective f/stop. I not exactly sure what he means by this and it doesn't make muchsense to me any way that I interpret this. I would assume that you have the same DOF of the a lens 1.4 timelonger in focal length and one stop slower. Is this not true? For example:Using a 400mm lens at f/5.6 focused at 3.5m the DOF is 41.4 inches.Put an 1.4x TC on this lens results in a 560mm lens at f/8 stillfocused at 3.5m the DOF should be 29.9 inches. Is this not correct? What would the DOF be according to Moose's rule? 23.7 inches? 12inches? Something else? Moose's explaination just doesn't makephysical sense to me. I know of other technical mistakes in this book regarding TCs (esp.why a TC make a lens one stop slower, Moose claims it is due to moreglass, it is not), so another one wouldn't suprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc schneider dc metro Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 I just noticed that I calculated the depth of field for 22.6m not 3.5m focus distance. But the questions about Moose's book and DOF with TC remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I believe that the DOF would be 40% less if the image were taken at the same APERTURE SETTING (not relative aperture), and from the same distance. This would be based entirely on ths increased magnification of the image. The important rule to which I refer is that DOF depends (almost) entirely on RELATIVE APERTURE and IMAGE MAGNIFICATION! The effect of focal length is miniscule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergey_oboguev Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 DOF is proportional to aperture (F-number) and inversly proportional to the square of magnification (i.e. size of object image in the film plane divided by the size of original object). M = object-image-size / object-size also M ~ lens-focal-distance / distance-to-object DOF ~ F / M^2 If you put TC 1.4 on a lens and stay at the same distance from the object being photograhed: magnification would increase by x1.4 whereas minimum possible F (assuming you shoot "wide open" in both cases) would increase by x1.4 and thus "wide open" DOF will decrease by x1.4. That's the impact on DOF in absolute terms. "Apparent" DOF with respect to dimensions of framed view would decrease twofold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klix Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 No, it doesn't make sense. My calcs show: Total DOF of 560/5.6 is roughly 51% total DOF of 400/5.6 Total DOF of 560/8 is roughly 73% of total DOF of 400/5.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_kennedy Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Who knows what Moose Peterson was saying? Without seeing the book, it doesn't make a lot of sense and perhaps it was just a poor wording choice or a misunderstanding on his part. The point is, however, that you are thinking of it correctly, Marc. Add a 1.4x TC to any lens and the DOF is the same as a lens one stop slower and 1.4 times longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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