r._j. Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I'm kind of 'old school' in my camera tastes. I have always preferred box-y cameras (such as the Nikon FM-2 or any of the Olympus OM bodies) compared to the new ergonomic style seen in cameras like the Canon T90 or EOS-1v. Am I the only one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_davis7 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I can't say you're the only one, but I would hazard a guess that you are one of a few. I really prefer the newer ergonomic styles because they are just that - ergonomic. They fit so perfectly in your hand and they feel like an extension of your body. They do, however, call attention to themselves. I guess that's why the simple Leica-style design will always be superior in street shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_holmstr_m Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 As a quick response to you last question: You are far from the only one, so don't be afraid:) I have used the Canon EOS-1 cameras quite a lot. I have owned EOS-1, EOS-1N and EOS-1Nrs. The best one of these is the EOS-1N. NRS has the magnificent "pellicle" mirror, but hardly defendable in normal fotography due to its 2/3 stop disadvantage. Great for News/Journalism though! Thinking of buying one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 If you like the old school stuff, you can still get 'em new. Wonderful but brick-like cameras like the Nikon FM3A, Minolta X-370, Contax Aria, Bessaflex, Bessa-R, Leica MP, et al., are still currently in production. I added a handgrip to my FM3A as to avoid dropping that brick on my foot. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobyalan.com Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 When I want to have a look at an attractive camera, I get my Teakwood Shen-Hao 4x5 out and set it up on thr tripod. However, I think the EOS design is quite nice and a heck of a lot more ergonomic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobyalan.com Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 When I want to have a look at an attractive camera, I get my Teakwood Shen-Hao 4x5 out and set it up on the tripod. However, I think the EOS design is quite nice and a heck of a lot more ergonomic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 What is this, the Leica forum? The form factor pioneered by the T90 and still used today in many EOS cameras is a landmark design. It is simple, functional, keeps excess buttons away, and fits well in the hand. German designer Luigi Colani designed it to be ergonomic and natural, rather than the contortionists nightmare that many more traditional cameras end up being. For some reason I always thought that having the shutter speed dial on top (and perpendicular to the natural plane of motion for a finger) was an ergonomic disaster - the only older camera that had a shutter speed control I really LIKED was the Olympus OM. Additionally, I find cameras with pointy corners to be a pain. LITERALLY. One really can't beat the current Canon system for ergonomics in my opinion. One dial for shutter speed, one for aperture, buttons that can be remapped to functions I use rather than factory defaults (which aren't useful for all users), all add up for an almost transparent camera experience. I don't really think about my EOS camera when I am using it - I think THROUGH it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erin.e Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 The EOS design is ergonomic, but it sure is bloody ugly! (I'm an EOS owner by the way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman5 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 The only thing I don't like about my IIe is that it is chrome. There was allegedly a black one available in Japan but it never made it here to the USA. I, too, miss my OM-1 and OM-4. While the IIe is what I use and will continue to use until it becomes unuseable, I'm looking for an OM-1. But I don't like used cameras so I'm thnking of the Olympus (OM?) 3000. I think that's the name. Totally manual with an electric meter. Sorta like the OM-1. The OM-1 thing is more emotional -- I just want one, and it has to be black..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_peters1 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 My 650 is very attractive. My neighbors Nikon F4 is hitting on her all the time :D -=- Seriously - I use to prefer the older style, but I've come to really like the grip on the EOS 650 - it makes it easy to carry (I never use a neck strap - well, I do - but wrapped around my wrist, not my neck) It's easy to carry it from one place to another with that handle thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david arnold eugene, oreg Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 "The EOS design is ergonomic, but it sure is bloody ugly!"<p> You're supposed to take pictures with <i>with</i> it, Boyd, not <i>of</i> it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick roberts Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Some are attractive, some are ugly - but none as ugly as the Leica R8 or Nikon F4, thankfully, and none as attractive as any Rolleiflex TLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eos 10 fan Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 R. J. (aka Old School), I had the boxy AE-1, AE-1P & A-1 before switching to a pair of EOS 10s. I preferred the match needle in the viewfinder of the AE-1 and I miss the click stops of the on lens Av ring - The 10s feels better in my hands though. <p> The T90 was the prototype for the EOS line design.<br>Have you seen how Canon designed the T90?<br><a href="http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/design/kikaku/t90/index.html">http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/design/kikaku/t90/index.html</a> <p> -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent_j_m Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Nope, you're not the only one. I still love my ancient Olympus OM-2n and though my eyesight is failing on me these days and I don't shoot too often with it, I'd never ever sell it. I like my EOS'es but the OM is a classic beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_stanton2 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Regarding the comment that the Leica R8 is "ugly" - i used to think so, as well. I remember meeting a PJ who used them. I took one look and knew then and there that that was one camera i'd never buy. When i looked to get out of rangefinders and back to SLRs, i still liked Leica glass, so i had to consider the R8. The more i looked at it, the more i liked it. I now have one and think it's beautiful. Go figure. And, i'm not really one for 'modern' camera designs. I've always prefered the more conventional, solid looks of Nikons like the F3-F5, and i think the Contaxes are always beautiful. But, years ago, when i had to choose an AF 35mm system, i bought into Canon because of the lenses. I still favour Canon for AF cameras, but i still don't 'love' the aesthetics. I prefer a more retro/boxy design aesthetic, in general, which is why i like so much my hasselblad and Rolleiflex. I don't think the Canons are ugly, but i'd rather have a 'squarer' profile, with an actual, thick, knobby shutter speed dial.... BTW, though - "prettiest" current production camera? Leica MP, chrome. Several species away from a 1D-MkII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick roberts Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Anyway, there's nothing "boxy" or square about the OM1 or OM2! Especially with the shoe removed - beautiful indeed. But then I think the EOS 600 is beautiful, and any Contax, and the Leica MP, and the Rollei 35S, and..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 PLEASE, Nick! The OM-1 and OM-2 are as boxy as a Volvo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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