henricus Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 I'm eagerly waiting my first attempt at displaying one of my photographs in a large matted frame. I've taken a velvia slide and had it blown up to 16x20 using Giclee printing on nice 'art paper'. Because of the slide's size ratio to the 16x20, I'll actually have a little border around my photo. Here's my question, I know its okay to sign and date my photo, but where should I sign it. On the boarder or on the photo itself? What do ya'll do? I would be very interested to know what and why. It probably doesn't matter, but I'm just curious. Thanks.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 divide your picture up verticaly in thirds (two lines). sign under the line on the right (2/3 from the left/ 1/3 from the right)...this is what i've been told anyways by fine artists. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per_volquartz1 Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Sign your work in the bottom right hand corner, outside the image. Use a #3 pencil or a sterling silver wire with a sharp point. (The silver signature will oxidize over time and look better and better as time goes by...) Also you may want to write information on the back of the print: what kind of print, dates etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom h. Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 It's really kind of a personal thing Henry- you can do it whatever way you think looks good. I usually sign mine in ink on the mat below the bottom edge photo (signature on left, title and date on right). Whatever and wherever you decide, it's a good idea to lightly draw in pencil a line to sign on (this can be erased when the signature dries). Also, take a piece of blank paper and sign it a couple of times before you sign the mat, for size, etc.Neatness counts, and it's surprisingly easy to screw up a mat (usually, "on the day") by assuming "I'll just eyeball it freehand and do it quickly". Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Sign it with soft pencil on the back of the print. Signing on the front is tacky. Reason being- A photograph is not something you wholly created. You collaborated with the scene. In fact the scene did most of the work... If you sign the front it's a bit pretentious, imo, and others feel the same. Even painters don't sign the front of their paintings these days... It also interferes with the communication of the pure picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Who said, "does God sign the sky"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_ferguson1 Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 If you sign on the mat then your signature would be lost if the mat is ever replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom h. Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 "If you sign the front it's a bit pretentious, imo, and others feel the same."- no offense Ray, but I'll stomp on it with muddy boots if I feel like it. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 <i>What do ya'll do? I would be very interested to know what and why.</i> <p> Tom, I was just offering an opinion. Of course you can do whatever you want with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom h. Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Absolutely, Ray, I know that. I also sign mine on the back in soft pencil. I have found tho, when trying to sell to John Q. Public, that it doesn't hurt to snazz it up a bit (the presentation)- makes the punters feel they're getting their moneys worth. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Ha! Wish I even had that to worry about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Painters sign the painting, not the frame. Print-makers sign the print, not the mat(te). Even if I've cut the mat(te) myself, it's the photograph that I'm taking credit (or blame) for, not the cardboard around it. So I sign my prints (if/when I sign them) in the white border of the print itself just outside the image area - bottom right. I don't go in (yet) for numbered editions, so I just date the print at the bottom left ("11/2003"). I use a gray Tombow (#65) acid-free artists' water-color marker pen, which is less heavy and distracting than pure black ink. If you're REALLY humble you can always make the signature small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Hey, it's up to you, especially since it's just for you. However, I agree about not signing on the mat, that never made sense to me. I have been asked (and agreed) to sign on the photo itself, inside the picture area. I have also been asked (and agreed) to sign my note cards, on the front under the image. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey L.T. von Glück Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 I usually sign the matte in the lower left edge nearest the print using a soft black pencil (Sanford #4B, which has the same lead as the discontinued Eberhard Faber #602 "Blackwing" pencils--for you pencil connoisseurs out there), sometimes I pencil in the copyright symbol with year (in roman numerals) on the right side. I usually sign the back of the print, add my address, contact numbers, etc. I've seen some sign the front of the print itself using a silver metallic marker--too garish for me. Jeffrey L. T. von Gluck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_peter_arnold Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Ansel Adams' advice (and practice) was to sign lightly in pencil on the print, lower right corner of a white border, not the matte. Worked for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henricus Posted November 9, 2003 Author Share Posted November 9, 2003 Thank you all so much for such insightful information. I think the light pencil sig and date on the bottom white portion of th print is what I'll do. Thanks to all for taking the time to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_barnett2 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 "I've seen some HCB prints that used a embossed stamp as well." Thats simply because his lab is churning them out and he can't be bothered to fly from New York to Paris (or whatever) to sign them. I suspect he never even see's the majority of his prints, never mind handles them in a tray of chemicals. As for signing, the fey approach of only signing on the back makes me laugh. If you want to 'inflict' a photograph on your public or friends, take responsibilty for it and have the courage to sign it where they can read which bozo did it! It concentrates the mind wonderfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 What's "see's"? A candy store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 "What's "see's"? A candy store?" Actually - yes - in Denver. 8^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_campbell Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 The "God" quote was from Steiglitz. It has been said that he was, perhaps, comparing himself to God. I think he may have just been talking about creative people in general. Still, he was known for having a bit of an ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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