jay_. Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Does it have working guts or is it a dummy? Doubt if whoever buys it would notice, but I'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dford Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Speaking about hetero males - I'm holding out for the MP Liberace...thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 It's fun to paraphrase that Fitgerald quote: 'The rich are very different than you and me; they're insufferable snots.' One of life's many little paradoxes...We all work to have a little more, but there's ample evidence that at some point more becomes too much, and spoils us. Too bad Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" initiative didn't aim to eliminate excess wealth, rather than poverty. The poor never have a sense of entitlement about their condition. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 I repeat: Neck jewelry for the w/f set. Where's Phill? It's rediculous, these "special" edition cameras aimed at people who don't take pic's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 but derek, you're (apparently) british; what's his excuse?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_carson Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 That looks to me like it is a 35mm-f.1.4 Summilux-M and NOT the ASPH version?? I didn't think that they still produced these lenses? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 The writing around the lens front rim clearlyreads "Summicron" "ASPH" Bill. Time for a new pair of reading glasses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_henry1 Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Comes with a free poodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrevasse Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 The mark-up on the Hermes edition means I won't be able to spend as much as planned on an underwater housing. Can anyone recommend a cheap underwater housing for the MP? It doesn't have to be completely waterproof. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 shrink-wrap, my boy, shrink wrap. no joke, this stuff works great. you can buy the shrink-wrap kits just about anywhere these days. i use my shrink wrap leicas for dry suit dives up to 500ft. works like a charm. you just cut the wrap off to reload and shrink wrap again. god excuse for multiple bodies. for advanced photogs, look into the tinted mylar (pink and blue are the most common). these are great for filter effects. i've taken to using the blue wrap all the time to adjust the underwater color balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 For that price you think they'd throw in a <B>FREE Hermes Leica Crank</B>, for that once in a lifetime occasion when someone actually uses the camera for it's intended purpose.<P><B>Intended purpose?</B> I wonder what that is, for a camera like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majid Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 What is everybody complaining about? If the rich and fashionably cluelesss subsidize workhorse Leicas for the rest of us, more power to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markci Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 It gets more embarassing all the time to carry a Leica. Thank God I'm getting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 does the price include shipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 To Roger Michael: >> shrink-wrap, my boy, shrink wrap. no joke, this stuff works great. you can buy the shrink-wrap kits just about anywhere these days. i use my shrink wrap leicas for dry suit dives up to 500ft. works like a charm. you just cut the wrap off to reload and shrink wrap again. god excuse for multiple bodies. << Surely you jest? A 500 ft dive generates a *static* pressure of over 17 Atm (>260lb/in2). I am dubious a camera body can support that kind of pressure. A Nikonos V is rated at 50msw. Most housings are good only to that depth. If what you say is true, I would be very interested in knowing a few details, as I'm a diver myself and have the need to replace my housing as the camera it is dedicated to is no longer available and it (the camera) was destroyed awhile ago. Specifically, do you use a motor drive or how do you advance the film? How do you focus? >> for advanced photogs, look into the tinted mylar (pink and blue are the most common). these are great for filter effects. i've taken to using the blue wrap all the time to adjust the underwater color balance << But that's exactly the contrary of what's needed. Blue will compound the UW color (loss of red). Another q', on those 500ft dives, just what kind of illumination do you use? At 140ft (air limit) it's quite dim, barely enough for available light with a 2.8 lens and 1600 rated film. I can only guess that 500' is pitch black even in the most clear of waters. Also, out of curiosity, what air mixture do you use for 500' and what decompression scheme? I would think that this requires a diving bell and not a dry suit but a hot water filled one. If you meant your comment as a joke, I beg your pardon but I didn't see any emoticon or other indication of such. OTOH, if you meant it earnestly, then pardon my ignorance about the issues I mentioned and please ellaborate, the scheme sounds very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_morris4 Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 I think that surely he did jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph_barker Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Travis - thanks for the chuckle. Shipping, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrevasse Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 No light at 500 feet? Oh great -- now I need a Noctilux. If I boil the MP in oil, can I get by without an underwater housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_pfile1 Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 I don't think I'll be ordering one. All my purchase decisions should be this easy! However, I wonder if the chrome hood will be made available to us peons. It certainly looks more substantial than that plastic stuff they've been kicking out over the last few decades. If it's not in the "equity loan" range, I might get one if available. Best, Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 It will be interesting to see how Leica and Erwin legitimize this one with their flare for spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 >>>t will be interesting to see how Leica and Erwin legitimize this one with their flare for spin.<<< I see that you're still obsessed by rangefinder "flare"...it should be "flair" for spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markci Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 >>> Surely you jest? What tipped you off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_morris4 Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 The faster you spin, the wider you flare.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_l._doolittle Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 I'm in favor of whatever it takes to keep the Leica Camera Company solvent. Personally, I've other priorities for $8500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hall1 Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 >It will be interesting to see how Leica and Erwin legitimize this one with their flare for spin. Easy: "Instead of the (mismatched) coverings on your garden variety MP, this one sports sumptuous leather made by Parisian craftsmen in the signature Hermès colour and tradition. Note the battery cover which will surely inspire images you never even dreamed of." BTW, the regular MP does not have mismatched coverings in its official print brochure. Another proof that someone screwed up instead of an "ingenious design decision" as claimed by certain apologists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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