Rob F. Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 A gray M4 just sold on the bay for $1995.00. The seller says it's the original paint. I checked the serial number in Hove, and it just says "M4" but nothing special. You know, like if it's black it'll say "schw." for "schwartz" (black). A run shorty before this one is noted as olive drab, obviously for the military. But this particular run has no special notation. So, does anyone know anything about some Leicas being painted gray? I didn't notice anything in Lager, or in Rogliatti. Here's URL: <p> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2950402835&category=30030&rd=1">"CLICK"</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahlster Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Looks like a satin black finish on my monitor!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Rob I have noticed a large number of well heeled buyers from the Orient on the bid list for that item. I suspect that it is a black paint model, but, who knows? Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 One thing for certain, its been amateurishly hacked into... check out the screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 It certainly looks grey on my screen - drab indeed. The only ref I can find to grey Ms is a run of 20 M2s in 1960 being finished in 'blue grey (enamel and covering)' for the military (Sartorious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_barnett2 Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Looks gray to me, have you guys seeing black and green got your monitors calibrated properly? Anyway, I have seen one before, and know I have a book or magazine with it in. If I can find it I will post some details! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert_keuken2 Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Unusual film advance lever for a Leica M4. This one has an M3 style one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_white2 Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Looks like a cobbled together camera. Notice the guard around the lens release. Also, it has the little round stud on the left for holding a flash bracket. I've never heard of an M4 with either feature. There's also an M3-M2 advance lever. The frame illumination window looks more like an M6 than an M4; too many ridges for an M4. I think the base plate is not from an M4. open-auf / close-zu around the release was dropped with the M4, wasn't it? It looks like an M3 body with an M4 top cover, self-timer lever and frame selector lever, painted grey. PJW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 I saw that back when it was first listed and noticed everything Peter described and had checked Leica's website and the serial# turned up just a plain (silver) M4. Had a good chuckle. That camera is the equivalent of Frankenstein's monster. Hope the guy who spent $2K on it doesn't ever take it to a collector meet or the guffaws will be heard for miles around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_white2 Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 I sent the buyer an email. Hopefully he can back out of the deal. PJW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henk Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 On my monitor the pictures look selectively edited. It could be a cheap paint job, i have very acidy sweat and normal black paint turns grey in my hands over time, i even rub off the paint on spots i hold a black painted camera often. The price you pay for playing guitar often..... Greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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