peter_collins Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 LF colleagues, please beware of any offerings from Shawn Cain of Washington state, working eBay as "iwantstuff88." I was defrauded of $134 by this thief. He has a large number of negative feedbacks in the last few months, apparently because of repeated defrauding of bidders. He cashed my postal MO; he screens telephone calls with his answering machine, does not return calls and does not respond to email. An email address which he uses is "stuffhunter50@hotmail.com." Beware, and spread the word. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Did you contact ebay about this? You should be covered up to $200 loss, even though you may have to jump through hoops to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_tuttle Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 You should also contact your post office, since you paid with a MO he probably is guilty of mail freud and defreuding the federal government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_mckay Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 It's so unfortunate that there's loosers like this guy on ebay. Frankly, Ebay's only interested in one thing - $$$ -! I once complained repeatedly to Ebay about a misleading (photo equip.) illegal seller, and they finally suspended his priveleges,...oh, for a couple of weeks. Peter, I don't know if this was your experience, but this was early-on in my Ebaying days, and if I'd only scrutinized his multiple negative feedbacks, and smelled the coffee, I would never have made the purchase. Better luck next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge_gasteazoro4 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 If the guy has so many neg feedback, why did you bid on his stuff? Seems to me if you bid knowing he had a lot of neg feedback then it is your fault if you got conned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_collins Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 Dear helpful colleagues-- I'm re-joining this discussion to say that I SHOULD have checked the seller's feedback, but I was an eBay newbie, and naive. Naive just two months ago; only when things weren't going right did I check into the seller. I seem to have obtained several degrees from the School of Hard Knocks (with no aid or scholarships) in life; this lesson is relatively cheap compared to others. I hope this discussion is enlightening to LFers beginning to use eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Hi Peter, <p> Sorry to hear about your hard lesson on ebay... it's too bad that ebay doesn't come down harder on "people" who rip others off. There's a lot of those scoundrels out there. <p> There are some good, reputable sellers out there too. I make it a point to review their feedback on every transaction I'm thinking about entering into. But, even when there are negative feedbacks in their history doesn't make them necessarily a bad risk to do business with. I look at the specific comments to see if there's a trend or pattern. For example, there are some sellers out there who respond to comments left about them with same/similar rebuttal comments. The general one is, "it's ALWAYS about the other person causing the problem (ie: communications, item is lost in the mail, or that sort of redderick).... and NEVER about them (they never accept ANY responsibility)!" <p> Secondly, you should also look at the number of transactions the seller/buyer has been involved in. I tread "very carefully" with sellers with no/very limited numbers of transactions under their belt. It's far too easy to go onto ebay with no "hard" merchandise to sell and list the "item" for sale anyway. Then, when a bidder wins and sends in their payment... the seller disappears, or there's a ton of games played out until you finally cut your losses! There goes your money and you receive nothing in return! <p> Anyway, in spite of having to jump the numerous "hurdles" at ebay...it's well worth doing, just as a matter of principle. <p> Good luck in recovering your money. <p> Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_james Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 File the mail fraud complaint with the Post Office. They DO take it seriously. Also report to your local police dept., and see if they will contact the PD where Shawn lives. Don't just drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge_gasteazoro4 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Although ignorance is no defense as the lawyers say, I sympathyze with you, so here is what I did in a similar case. I contacted the USPS and filed a mail fraud report, you can do so right on their web site. Mail fraud is a federal crime and the postal inspectors are not light weights, they will take it seriously. I then went and looked for the state goverment and filed a fraud complaint with the district attourney where the person receiving the payment lived. I dont recall the web site, but a google search will probably give you the site for the FBI internet fraud. Go there and file another report. ALthough less usefull than the actions above, go the the BBB of the state here the guy lives and file another report. Last, go back to E bay and make a hard copy of the auction ad, they will ask for this in addition to your copy of the MO to be able to refund your money. All of this might take you about an hour and a half on the computer but it might get your money back. In my case it did, apparently the guy got scared and refunded my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_photo Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Well eBay put a stop to his listing but I'd go with the above advice starting with the USPS and all of the others. With all of those complaints from people with his address I'd say he's in for a major dose of WUPASS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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