david_a._wong Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Hello all, I have a question for photographers with experience with the Fujifilm GX617. I'm about to buy one, but I'm not sure as to what lenses to go with it; 90mm, 105mm, 180mm, and 300mm. What would you recommend and why? Pros and cons? Thanks!! David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wharridge Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 What are you going to use the camera for ? Seems a bit strange to decide on that camera without having a good idea what lens(es) you would use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_a._wong Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 As my current portfolio has lots of landscapes and city-scapes I'd like to continue in that arena. To date, equipment bag consists of solely of a multitude of 35mm cameras and this will be my FIRST panoramic. As such I have no point of reference to compare it to. Why do you think it would be so strange, Wayne? Did YOU always know if you preferred chocolate ice cream over vanilla before you ever even TASTED ice cream? :) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland_haid Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Hi David, I agree that this sounds odd. The GX617 is a very special camera, for an 35mm expert at least. A logical step from 35mm is the Hasselblad Xpan, which uses the same film or a Mamiya 7II and crop the 120 rollfilm. However, you will get a true panoramic effect if the focal lenght is in the order of film heigth x 1.5, so the image cropped to a square gives a normal impression. The Noblex cameras work like that. For the GX617, this would be about 85mm focal lenght, therefore 90mm or 105mm are quite right. Generally, the shorter the better because you can crop the image later. Have a look to a Hasselblad Xpan, a Linhof 612PC and the Noblex cameras before you decide to buy a GX617. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wharridge Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 "Did YOU always know if you preferred chocolate ice cream over vanilla before you ever even TASTED ice cream?" Nah, just went ahead and tasted both. The point I was trying to make was that this is not a very sensible question for us to answer for you without a lot more information about intended use. All I can say is that if I was buying a 617 I'd get the widest lens possible for it, now is that really any help to you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_littleboy__tokyo__ja Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I'm not a GX617 owner, but I do like things wide... Since the 105mm lens would give you the same horizontal angle of view as a 22mm lens in 35mm (or 35mm lens in 645), it's not much of a wide angle in 35mm terms. The 90/5.6 gets you down to 19mm. Also, I was looking at a friend's portfolio of TX-1 shots (with the 45mm lens) on the Fuji rangefinder site, and I was struck that he didn't have enough space in the vertical direction on many of his horizontal shots. So for that reason also, I'd go for the wider lens. The 90mm may be the widest of those lenses, but it's still quite a long lens compared to, say, a 35mm in 645, so you will have lots of magnification on the film relative to wide angle lenses in 35mm and 645 for lovely detail rendition. See the "rogerama" folder at www.fujirangefinder.com. I especially like his vertical shots. His comment, however, is that he likes the 45mm lens, and uses his Widelux for extreme panorama stuff. So you should probably ignore my rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_walton2 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I love the 90mm and find it most useful. It will capture the foreground and sky to make a better looking pan picture. If it doesn't come with a centerspot filter, get one also! They are expensive but very worth it to even out the frame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dermot_conlan4 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Rent the camera for the weekend, it's a very specialized formatand it will take you a while to see. Panoramic images need to flow from one side of the frame to the other L-R. The 90mm for 617 is not as wide as the 35mm in 645 (21mm in 35mm terms) I've used them side by side, it's looks closer to a 24mm . The 617 format is 3:1 ratio unlike the x-pan so your making different types of images, also you do not get that squashing of everything in the frame with the 617 wide angles you get with 35mm. One thing that will frustrate you is having to keep the camera or film plane completely level, this is where shift would be great. Many times you see an image set up but you want a bit more sky or you want to avoid something in the foreground, you can cheat with your 35mmm and tilt the camera this won't work with the 617. There is a company out the making a shift option for the Fuji can't remember the name, someone here will know it. So rent before dropping $3-4000 you'll be glad you did, just loading the camera will be an adventure coming from 35mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_williamson2 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Hi David, I specialize in 6x17 photography and use the Fuji GX with 90, 180, and 300 lenses. I first bought the 90 and until I learned how best to use the camera shot mostly with it. I then added the 180 followed by the 300. I now use the 180mm for 70% of all my images. 20% for the 90mm and the 300mm is nice to have but used more sparingly at 10%. The 180 is the closest view to your eyes and is the strongest to compose with and is the sharpest of the lenses. The 90 is great for interiors and for many landscapes. The 105 is also nice but to me too close to the 90. I would second the recommendation about the xpan. It is an easier transition from 35mm and a great camera. The Fuji is really only at it's very best on a solid tripod with a very experienced hand. My 2 cents. You can see many examples on my website. I'd be happy to give you lens information for each shot you are curious about. Good Luck with your panoramic images. Robb Williamson www.williamsonimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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