mike_lyons Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Hi to all.I'm looking for a colour neg film for landscapes with good colour saturation. I understand that the VC should do better here as opposed to the NC. However, Australia (at least in my neck of the woods) tends to have about a billion stops of contrast in the open sun.My question is this- how much more constast does VC have inherently over NC? I am a darkroom rather than digital worker so at this stage the scanning and Photoshop solutions are irrelevant.Regards-Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_wallace1 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Mike, The old joke is that NC stands for "no colour". Although I prefer VC, NC is not that bad. However, I suggest that you go with the VC. It is not as "vivid" as the literature suggests and certainly not as saturated as some reversal films such as Velvia or E100VS. If you have a roll film back, try a roll of each, or even 35mm. Get back to us and let us know what you found out. Don Wallace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron_van_de_sande Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 I have had good results using vc with flat lighting and nc with hard lighting for portraits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 I'd now recommend UC over either VC or NC for what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Sorry, my mistake. I see on the Kodak site that 400UC does not come in sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian_thomas Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Mike , I'min Barcelona and have the same contrast problem. I use Fuji 160 and see no reason to change Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey_james Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Doesn't it all come down to taste ? I prefer the NC, because I think it is a little subtler. The best colour photographs, IMO, are those that most closely resemble monochrome, rather than the tops of old fashioned chocolate boxes. The last of the Dusseldorf group to emerge, Elga Esser (sp) has done a very beautiful, if slightly precious, book on the cliffs at Etretat in Normandymin which the colours are leached out and the sky a pinkish brown. It looks great -- and it is his look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonard_evens Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 You may not be interested in my experience because I scan. But I've tried both N C and VC and I don't see any signficant difference between the two as far as scans are concerned. Since Vuescan allows me to estimate densities as well as telling me the RGB values, I can do the equivalent of comparing densitometer readings for the two films. VC may produce a slightly higher density range at slightly higher constrast, but it doesn't come at all close to what I see with reversal film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot_n Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 NC and VC are very similar, with the latter being slightly more colourful and maybe a little bit more contrasty. For contrast control experiment with the different grades of Kodak Endura paper (i.e. Portra, Supra, and Ultra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_crider4 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 I've used both in the smaller formats inside and out and prefer NC slightly overexposed to boost saturation: I don't really see a problem with contrast per se'. Every VC pic that I got back from no matter who, looked muddy and I use 4 diffferent pro labs for color. I know there's plenty of people who like it, but I'm just wondering if it likes overcast and lower light levels. From what I remember alot of my pics with it were in the bright sun. As concerns the NC, I do find that I prefer it on Fuji paper, or maybe it's just the lab I normally use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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