soboyle www.oboylephoto.co Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 It seems to me that systems like the Contax G and Leica M systems would be ripe for digital bodies, excellent lenses, autofocus in the case of the G system, and somewhat simplified designs due to the rangefinder systems. Are there any technical reasons why these camera systems wouldn't see a digital body in their future? I know the rear lens element can get very close to the film plane, especially on the wide angle lenses, would this be a problem with the digital chips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro_vasconcelos1 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I think the main problem is that the optical designs are really optimized for film. Digital sensors operate best at when the light hits at normal angle, whereas the rangefinder lenses make use of the very short back focal distance to oblique incidence angles, particularly for wide angle lenses. In short: you'd get massive vignetting, much more so than with SRL lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 There's already a Minox digicam tarted up to vaguely resemble a Leica III. Isn't that enough of an atrocity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanovandelli Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 From Amateur Photography, 12 July 2003 "Leica announces R9 digital back". They are clearly awakening to the new medium. Next stop a digital back coupled rangefinder? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl smith Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I bet we'll see Contax attempt it first, but it will be overpriced and noisy. Reminds me of the Digital N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oskar_ojala Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I think we will see such a body at some point. Two years ago full-frame DSLR's were by some considered as too hard to make due to economics and the vignetting issue, but I haven't heard Canon 1Ds or Kodak 14n owners complain about such issues. I believe that engineers can devise a working, full-frame RF camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Leica= probably not They don't have the money or r&d to do it by themselves. So unless they bring their association with Panasonic to a higher level (the M cameras are the only real moneymaker in Leica's camera lines), it won't happen. And their "prosumer" digital cameras haven't been that amazing. I'm suprised they are attempting something for the R line. It seems like a real waste of time to me. Contax=maybe At one point I thought that a digital "g" camera was a logical next step for Contax. But then their dSLR failed so horribly. The new TVS is getting pretty good reviews, so maybe that will re-energize Contax into looking at the "g" line. But for both, it would take some new lens designs to make their wide angle lenses work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip l. Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I think that we will see both with digital G's and M's; but not for sometime. It will require a new full frame sensor that has shallower "well" for each pixel. Maybe then we'll get our wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie hancock Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Clearly there's plenty of interest in a digital body that would accept the excellent and plentiful Leica (and Contax-G) lenses. I see that Epson and Cosina have just announced a digital Bessa R2 in M mount. Unfortunately it uses an APS-sized sensor, so you'd need a Voigtlander 12mm or 15mm for serious wide-angle work, and those designs are notable for vignetting even with 35mm film. But it's a step in the right direction. Leica has recanted its old never-never line about a digital M, saying that new sensor designs can maybe get around the oblique-angle problem. But I'd expect several years to go by before they bring one to market. Kyocera/Contax is a more adventurous outfit, so who knows? But I'm afraid a full-frame Contax digital would be too rich for my blood. But hey, film still works as well as it ever did, and I like my G lenses (especially the sweet 21mm) too much to stop using them just as a matter of principle. In fact I'll probably buy another G2 body and mate the 21mm to it for life. For more on the digital Bessa, go to http://www.dpreview.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_fajack Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 If anyone from contax cares: I will buy a digital G body the day you make it. Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_ton_that Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I have been waiting patiently and resisted buying a digital SLR camera. Will we ever see the day of the digital G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Considering that Contax is getting out of the camera business altogether, I wouldn't count on ever seeing a digital G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaladhi Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 It is interesting to read this thread after 6.5 years :-) Full frame Leica rangefinder is with us now and Contax is no more. G lenses may get a new lease of life on micro four thirds though and there is certainly a possibility of a full frame mirrorless body with EVF in a near future that will accept all kinds of lenses with adapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou_Meluso Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 <p>Some years later, now April 2012, I'm using LTM and Contax G lenses on the Sony NEX 5n and they work great!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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