Filters for 110mm XL Schneider Super Symmar.

[aguilabrava]

I understand that 67mm filters cannot be used in the front element

filter ring of this lens because due to its design they will come in

contact with the front glass element, now, what would be the solution

to this problem, I mean the less expensive one?.

 

Also, can I use 52mm filters on the rear element filter ring?.

 

Is it really imperative to use a "center filter" with this lens?. If

so, are there any less expensive alternatives to the ultra-expensive

filter sold by Schneider?.

 

Thanks you.

[ralph_barker]

I use 77mm glass filters for most of my lenses that size or smaller, so the adapter ring avoids the problem of conventional filters touching the front element. In my opinion, in all but the most ciritical of situations (typically with chromes), the 110mm XL can be used without a center filter. But, I tend to slightly burn the corners of my B&Ws when printing anyway.

[michael_briggs2]

This issue of safely using filters on the 110 mm SSXL has been discussed several times before, e.g., "Schneider 110mm XL - filters touching glass warning" at http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0032mZ,

"Super Symmar XL 110 (filter size)" at http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=003ADr and "filter for Schneinder 110XL" at http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0038RX.

Possible approaches: using the 67 mm B+W EW type filters, using a larger filter size with a step-up ring, or using thin filters (polyestar or gelatin).

 

The problem with using thick filters on the rear of a lens is that they cause a focus shift. One could focus with the filter in place, but the light loss from a center filter makes this difficult. One could focus with a clear glass filter of the same thickness and refractive index, then switch to the center filter, but this would be rather tedious. See "center filter on threar element?" at http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0050FC

 

Are you thinking of using the 110 SSXL with 4x5 film? Is so, you probably won't need a center filter. ALL lenses have some light falloff -- it is a question of what each user finds acceptable for their usage: the amount of light falloff for a particular lens, format size, film type, subject matter, etc. See "Center Filter for 110XL Lens" at http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004iw5

[robert_a._zeichner1]

If you are using the lens for 4x5, you have more coverage than you'll need and so one simple remedy would be to find a 67mm filter that you could disassemble to remove the glass. You'll then have a spacer that will allow a 67mm filter to be used without danger of contacting the front element. I sometimes use 52mm filters at the rear of the lens as follows: I use only premium glass such as B&W or Heliopan. I make certain I mount the filter before focusing to avoid focus shift. No problems have resulted from this technique and I do save the extra weight of multiple filter sets when travelling.

[morey_kitzman]

Antonio

 

I use Heliopan's 67 mm polarizer with the 110 XL and there is no contact between the filter and the lens. I place a small pieice of paper on the lens and see if the filter will rotate it when screwed in place. So some filters will work. You do not need a center filter when shooting 4 x 5. Good luck.

[ling_z]

110XL is a great lens, and I use it most often. I have two sets of filters for it depends different conditions:

 

If I need great movement, I always use Schneider IIIb center filter plus a 86mm UV filter;

 

If I don't need much movement or shoot at low light, I use a 67mm to 86mm step up ring plus a 86mm UV filter.

 

I also had a question about the rear element filter before, and most guys suggested I should not use one.