PapaTango Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Dave's not here man... Edited January 9, 2023 by PapaTango My cat Bear suggested that I all a link for context 2 1 1 "I See Things..." The FotoFora Community Experience [Link] A new community for creative photographers. Come join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Perhaps PN needs a new tagline for its masthead ... taken from Henry Miller ... An artist is always alone if he is an artist - What the artist needs is loneliness. See, it is all by design! 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_leinster Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 So sad that this site seems to be falling by the wayside, no-one seems to be doing anything apart from the photographers and some of the Mods. Even many of the Mods haven't visited for years1 The site needs sorting to make it more user friendly but has the potential to be a really fun forum. If there is anyone out there in authority please let us know what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, tony_leinster said: So sad that this site seems to be falling by the wayside, no-one seems to be doing anything apart from the photographers and some of the Mods. Even many of the Mods haven't visited for years1 The site needs sorting to make it more user friendly but has the potential to be a really fun forum. If there is anyone out there in authority please let us know what is going on. At this point, it's up to the users to make what we can given the basic tools we have. There IS NO administration who is listening or active and the Mods have done and continue to do all they can. It's only our own initiative and participation that's going to make this work, even with all the flaws left in place when the redesign was abandoned. The sooner we stop wondering if anyone out there cares or is going to do something, the better we'll all be because it will show that we have faced reality. 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_leinster Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Hi Sam The problem is, who is paying for this going forward? No site is without cost paid for either by subscription or advertising, both of which appear to be absent. I would hate to see it go but unless there is a plan from whoever now owns it it will go under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, tony_leinster said: The problem is, who is paying for this going forward? If it's important for you to know this, the information on who owns PN is given in several threads throughout the site. Check through relevant threads in Site Help and Casual. I'm not clear on how knowing who is paying for PN addresses the problems you have with the site, but that information is out there. Attempts have been made to contact listed persons in charge to no avail. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_leinster Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Exactly my point, no one seems to be running the site apart from a few mods. I know it is powered by Envision but they normally charge fees so is anyone paying them? The person who was setting up the new version of the site has not been active for some time. If you know who actually owns or runs the site can you let me know, I can find no information other than historic references. I am only interested in what happens going forward. I have been a member here for many years and am concerned for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I know several contact people have been mentioned by a couple of members who’ve researched it. They are in threads in the last 3 months but, since my point exactly is that it’s a waste of time, I don’t want to take the time to find them. If you’ve looked through recent threads and can’t find the info, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian R. Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 @samstevens Has this site really been abandoned? I've been away for a bit and been poking around wondering what happened. - Brian R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brian R. said: @samstevens Has this site really been abandoned? I've been away for a bit and been poking around wondering what happened. We have no official word. One person communicated to us regularly during the redesign and migration to the new platform. For a few weeks, work was being done. About 2-3 months ago all noticeable work stopped and the person communicating completely disappeared. Attempts to contact owners have been fruitless. That’s all I got. Edited January 13, 2023 by samstevens 1 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaTango Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Here is what is known--it should settle some of the debate. Most of this has already been related. PN was acquired as a part of Fiverr's interest and purchase in Creative Live--which was our owner of that time. Fiverr saw Creative Live as an adjunct to their freelance service offerings. Only one person at Fiverr was interested in PN, Matt Jensen. Leadership had no idea of what to do with the website. He advocated for the project, which required changing forum platforms. Fiverr uses Invision Community (this brand of forum software) and was migrated to it. Fiverr purchased a yearlong license from them and their hosting service in late August of last year. It is a reasonable cost, so there is no fear that finance will shut down our photographic home! Several of us were working with Matt on changes. Then he was pulled off the project and we have received no further communications since October 23, 2022. The forum core is stable--the issues deal with things that were never set up as part of completing the forum setup. A 'campaign' has been underway since late November to contact anyone with influence or control. This is a directed effort, in that the message is very consistent across contacts--please provide us an explanation, an administrator, or let us self-administrate. I have yet to reach anyone who knows anything--and it always gets kicked "upstairs." This work will continue--so those who want to "rattle the chain" I invite to PM me here on the board to maintain message consistency. Nothing worse than many voices with many different ideas... That's it right now. Let's enjoy each other's comradery and post some photos! Edited January 13, 2023 by PapaTango Space aliens made me do it 2 1 "I See Things..." The FotoFora Community Experience [Link] A new community for creative photographers. Come join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, PapaTango said: Nothing worse than many voices with many different ideas... Huh? Thanks for a fact-based and knowing explanation of the ongoing situation as well as an acknowledgment of your own efforts on our behalf, which are most appreciated … but you might want to consider a rewrite of this gem. 🙂 Edited January 13, 2023 by samstevens "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) No one of us speaks for everyone and it’s clear that different members have different needs, so it makes sense that a variety of ideas might get expressed simultaneously. The powers that be don’t seem interested in any of those voices right now, but if they were interested, they ought to be able to handle the various and sometimes differing needs within a community like PN. If they can’t, that’s their problem, not ours. No need to add the charged meme of “triggering” to the discussion. It’s just a pointed and silly distraction. Edited January 13, 2023 by samstevens 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
za33photo Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Methinks that it is best to let sleeping dogs lie. Photo.Net will either survive or not survive , I think that we should all enjoy using what we have now , while we still can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin McAmera Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I see I am no longer a Mentor, and someone has pinched all my badges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 There seems to be new activity with regard to album creation. For one, the Members Album category in the Gallery is now unlocked! Also, there appears to be a new administrator listed under Staff. Hopefully this trend will continue into the New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Parsons Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just spotted this - translate, please ? 4 dyTGOPS unfeatured and unpinned this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 An administrator (who goes by the name of TGOPS) who has suddenly become active has removed a pin from a thread. A pin means that a thread is pinned to the top of a forum list in order to feature it. Unpinning it means it is probably no longer relevant and therefore no longer being featured. TGOPS unpinned the old how-to threads that were about PN’s previous redesign, for example. Those were no longer relevant since they didn’t apply to the most recent redesign. I imagine there were other featured threads that are no longer relevant. It’s good housekeeping. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Simply posting priority removed due to obsolescence. Too quick, Sam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennS Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Looks like my gallery photos are still there as I can see tiny images. When I try to open one for full size view (they are < 1000 pixels) the system says I do not have permission. What gives? Glenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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