mikemorrellNL Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Again, my 2 cts as an ex-IT'er and as a voluntary moderator and manager of websits, forums and platform migrations. Website/Forum version upgrades (on the same 'platorm') are often challenging in terms of (user)functional and technical changes. Migrating a website/forum from one 'platform' to another is a wholly more greater challenge. Just consider the challenge of migrating all user accounts (user names, passwords, profile), forum categories and messages to a completely different (technical) 'platform'. And the ongoing task of migrating hundreds of thousands of 'images' and relating these to the authors. The new PN 'test site' was evaluated by various PN members who gave their feedback. The 'migratration strategy' was clearly outlined on the 'old site' well in advance. If you missed it, you weren't IMHO paying attention. IMHO, the new owners/developers/moderators of PN have done an excellent job in making the migratiion from the 'old' PN to the 'new' PN as seamless as possible. Sure there are still some tweaks to be made. The 'porting' of the vast number of images from the 'old' site to the 'new site' is still in progress. But all in all. I believe that the new owners/developers/moderators have done a wonderful job. Occasional 'glitches' are solved quickly, which leads me to believe that the new PN website has great support I echo @samstevens's sentiments in asking members to just keep calm, have some patience and have faith that the remaining issues will be resolved soon. One great benefit from the new site is that if you have an issue, you can report it and someone will quickly respond to it, 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I’ve noticed a handful of positive changes in the last few days, for me the most significant of which is posting photos any and every way is now possible from either (my) phone or desktop. IMO the new site is snappy and FWIW looks good too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 There is a lot of spam, but it is removed as soon as it is reported and a moderator is available. Doing our best! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin McAmera Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Anhow, that's the 'All activity' view: not surprisingly, it shows all activity. But you can click 'Unread content' in the top-right of the page, and not see any of the reactions - just actual posts. Or you can click Forums, and then navigate to one forum to see only the posts in that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaTango Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I echo what Mike has said, so I can be added to the "Brown Nose Brigade" as well... 💩 As a longtime developer, publisher, and administrator of numerous fora using SMF, vBulletin, Xenforo, and WPForo, I can empathize with our new admin, @mjensen. It is quite likely that he is the primary mover and shaker of this new enterprise--and has nearly 30 years of accumulated 'stuff' to deal with and to port over into a user friendly gallery/portfolio system. Pretty much all forum platforms are incredibly granular in permissions--meaning that both global and user group permissions must be set individually. What is not native to the platform can often be extended via apps or plugins--but those cost still more money to the publisher. There has been a steady movement to move things from the default settings. Yes, security has some holes. I see that some of those are being fixed. @normanskiromanoff, if you have ever stood up a site pretty much by yourself, you would understand. Or we could have watched this place get shut down. I favor the former alternative, and am willing to give our new galactic overlords time to move through things. For laughs, I created a "trial" installation of Invision Community--and have been playing about in the Admin Control Panel interface. As noted, everything is granular--and it is possible to filter the activity results by type as they appear to users. Time and budget. And there likely is not a lot of the latter. Personally, I would like to welcome back a number of PN friends who have not been visiting--or are sandbagging--back into activity. To them I would say that things are hardly perfect, but they are indeed moving along and we have been given another chance at digital life. So let's chill, have fun with what we have--and enjoy the ride! 3 "I See Things..." The FotoFora Community Experience [Link] A new community for creative photographers. Come join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin McAmera Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 What I described are not filters: just a different view with its own url. Get to a view you like and bookmark it. My bookmark is the Unread Content view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 7 hours ago, normanskiromanoff said: What are you on?It’s full of spam and every fart by TD&H is published What am I on, eh? Well… since we’re being blunt, I’m NOT *ON* the “cranky old git” plan. I AM ON the “scroll around the site, talk to people, and post pix” plan. I stay strictly on (or near) the surface and it’s completely painless. I am 100% able to do whatever I want here with zero problems- something I couldn’t have said a few days ago. I don’t go hunting for problems with the site, and I don’t find any - and, surprise surprise- none present themselves to me. Maybe you should back it down a little and just roll with it. I mean unless you’re obsessed with how lousy the site is and determined not to get over it. You could even try posting some photos or something, if you really wanted to go hog wild. Shocking concept, I know. Any other questions? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
za33photo Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I must give credit where credit is due. After a rocky start , I think that Matt Jensen and his Team are doing a good job , things can only improve , give them a little more time. Remember Folks , we still HAVE Photo.net , which might not have been the case otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 21 hours ago, normanskiromanoff said: I’ve done migrations from national carriers, BT, British Gas, Orange, French Telecom not some wanky ham radio set up I know about migrating systems Having said that, who really gives a shit Well, Master Of The Internet, figure it out, for a guy who doesn’t give a shit you sure cry a lot. 3 hours ago, normanskiromanoff said: I quoted the front page, no need to hunt. when I open “photo.net” here’s the “front page” I get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaTango Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 22 hours ago, normanskiromanoff said: I’ve done migrations from national carriers, BT, British Gas, Orange, French Telecom not some wanky ham radio set up Given that, you should know then what happens with a big budget. We don't have that going for us. At least the the Ignore feature is working seamlessly here... 🥸 "I See Things..." The FotoFora Community Experience [Link] A new community for creative photographers. Come join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.s Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 9:51 AM, j._kraska said: Where exactly do we see our own photos? I am unable to locate my gallery. Who knows. There's a blackhole playing roulette with our own photos. Same for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, peter.s said: There's a blackhole playing roulette with our own photos. There's an ongoing platform/software migration taking place and galleries, data intensive as they are, take longer to migrate. That's what we were told and that's what's happening. 1 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.s Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 9:54 AM, PapaTango said: You must not have been paying attention. This ride started with an announcement of new ownership many months ago. True, I don't pay a lot of attention. Then again, I saw your note and replied in 4 days. So what does that say about communications, search engine problems, missing galleries, galleries going up and down like yo-yos etc? Would PN have been better migrated had I paid attention or is that a red herring? My verdict remains: amateur migration, cheered on by Polyannas saying "don't worry, be happy." Truth is I'm not worried. There are plenty of other sites. I enjoyed Photo.Net and some very talented photographers who used to be here. If PN eventually get it right (and I pay attention), I'll see if it's worth the time again. Meanwhile thanks for my 1-year badge in celebration for my being here since 2001 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 hours ago, peter.s said: Would PN have been better migrated had I paid attention or is that a red herring? No it wouldn't. But at least you would have known what was happening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 Old software is a often a problem as time passes. Code errors that were unimportant suddenly become critical, at great expense in time and effort to repair. This update is a good faith and genuine effort. A little patience and respect for the good work done and better to come wouldn't hurt. Patience is a virtue, apparently in short supply. You might give company personnel a break. and an compliment now and then, for work to date. (Note: I am a volunteer!) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 We've waited years for improvements to P.net 2.0. Give P.net 3.0 some time before you go all dramatic and weepy... Remember? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.s Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 13 hours ago, httpwww.photo.netbarry said: No it wouldn't. But at least you would have known what was happening. Well communications was just one of my criticisms, but now you've made me curious. PN has my email address. I also have a PN "notifications" icon and a PN mail inbox. Any/all of these would seem like reasonable places for PN to notify users about pending changes. I didn't see info in any of these, although I do pay attention to these. So how were the communications made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 @ Peter: The first thread at the top of casual conversations gives the info about the transition and migration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin McAmera Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) I have been looking at the old forum posts. The ability to find old discussions of an obscure camera is one of the things I value most about photo.net. I've even cited forum posts here in wiki pages at camera-wiki. Old forum posts can now be browsed a long way back: For example, the Medium Format forum runs to 1600 pages of 25 threads each, and the earliest post is from March 1997. I find I can embed it by pasting the url here! (Aside: Curiously, the title of that post is 'Follow up re: ...' so it's not the earliest post about MF on photo.net; refers to an earlier post on a thing called MFD (maybe Medium Format Discussions?) Vol 7 #1 - maybe an earlier thread-format that couldn't be rescued when the rejigged the structure sometime around '93? La plus ça change... Also curiously, while was reading that post, a notification appeared at the bottom, of four new replies to it! There weren't really; the existing replies just registered as new, I guess.) Anyhow, you can browse that far back, but search seems to go back exactly two years at the moment. I'm confident this is a setting that can be re-set to search all time. I hope so. For example if I search for 'Ikon' (as in Zeiss Ikon) with the scope set to 'Topics' at the right of the search box, I get nine pages of results, and the earliest one is in October 2020. But if I search for 'Agifold' I get no results at all. There are posts on that camera - I posted some of them myself - but they're more than two years old. Thanks again to the people doing the migration! Edited October 16, 2022 by Dustin McAmera 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Parsons Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Well, things are looking up - well done all. May not have been instantaneous, but very few good things are. I can now post images, and award likes to the images others have posted. Be nice if my name could revert to Tony Parsons, but that is an extremely minor issue that may or may not be dealt with in the fulness of time - who knows ? Tony 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, tony_parsons1 said: Well, things are looking up - well done all. May not have been instantaneous, but very few good things are. I can now post images, and award likes to the images others have posted. Be nice if my name could revert to Tony Parsons, but that is an extremely minor issue that may or may not be dealt with in the fulness of time - who knows ? Tony Have you tried going to My Account / Account Settings / Display Name? It might be working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Parsons Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, Sandy Vongries said: Have you tried going to My Account / Account Settings / Display Name? It might be working! Just tried it, thanks - unable to edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 I suspect it is on the list, with the other things working for you, I thought it was worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.s Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/16/2022 at 1:02 PM, httpwww.photo.netbarry said: @ Peter: The first thread at the top of casual conversations gives the info about the transition and migration. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaTango Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Many thing seem to be happening under the radar! We are now able to set the background banner in profiles; Likes (aka Reactions) are now unlimited; and I believe the PM system has been fixed to allow more than two conversations before being forced to delete them to start a new one. The fine tuning is underway! 1 "I See Things..." The FotoFora Community Experience [Link] A new community for creative photographers. Come join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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