bill_schmidt Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 I went over to George Lepp's web site (www.leppphoto.com) looking to downlaod his 2200 profiles and they don't seem to be there anymore. I had printed up the page, which had the following URL: http://www.leppphoto.com/learn/articles/profiles.htm but I get a 1440 error. Anybody know what gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Bill, I ran across this explanation a couple of days ago:"Tim Grey (associated with George Lepp) had some excellent profiles for the Epson 2200, but removed them when he discovered restrictions in the MonacoPROOF license. . ." (http://www.normankoren.com/color_management_3.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff_lesergent Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 The one profile I did try from George Lepp's site was really bad, so if the others were similar, you aren't missing much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 The ones for Lustre, Semi-Matte, Enhanced Matte and Matter Paper Heavyweight are great. They gave me the most neutral, evenly saturated and best shadow detail results versus the Epson provided profiles or any other combination of settings I tried when printing the Kodak PhotoDisk test file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter nelson Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 <I>but removed them when he discovered restrictions in the MonacoPROOF license. . ." (http://www.normankoren.com/color_management_3.html) </I><P> What was the licensing problem? If you make a profile with a profiling tool you can't distribute it??!<P> Wouldn't that be a little like saying if I write some software with Microsoft VC++ I can't sell or distribute the software without paying a licensing fee to Microsoft? Even Bill Gates in his wildest, most avaricious money-grubbing dreams wouldn't try that. (although didn't Sun once try to pull that with someting to do with Java?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_sipress Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Too bad. I just got my 2200 yesterday, and can use the profiles. Since they were freeware, would anyone here who has them be so kind as to send them to me. Thanks. Jeffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Actually, that kind of stuff used to be common in the software industry. 15-20 years ago, if you compiled a program under one of Microsoft's compilers (Basic, Cobol, Fortran, FoxBase) you had to buy a "runtime library" license for every machine that you wanted to run it on. Competing compilers used to make a big thing about "royalty free runtimes" in their advertising. And yes, that's how many profile licensing systems work, from expensive tools like Monoco, right down to Cheney's "Profile Prism". Ciao! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter nelson Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 <I>And yes, that's how many profile licensing systems work, from expensive tools like Monoco, right down to Cheney's "Profile Prism".</I><P> That's bizarre! They sell you the tool and demand rights to whatever you made with it! It would be like if I bought a drill from Dewalt and a hammer from Stanley and used them to build a house, and they end up fighting it out in court over which one owns my new house! <P> Companies with policies like that make me want to steal their software just for the fun of violating their license! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 >Since they were freeware, would anyone here who has them be so kind as to send them to me. Thanks. Jeffrey I have the 3 2200 profiles that Tim Grey did for Mr. Lepp. They weigh in right at 1 meg each, but I suspect they'll zip up a bit smaller. Anyhoo, I'll be happy to send them to you Jeffrey, if you haven't found them yet. I can accomodate a few others - but alas, I don't own a web server. By the way, I can't recommend Tim's DDQ daily newsletter enough - I think it's www.timgrey.com. Best Wishes ...beau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_schmidt Posted March 2, 2003 Author Share Posted March 2, 2003 Beau- As the originator of this thread, could you send the profiles to me as well, please?! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_hopper Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Does anyone have any knowledge as to whether or not these licensing agreements have been upheld by any court? It seems to me that there are all kinds of onerous things that people are required to sign as part of the purchase of software, but I've heard that frequently the agreements havve no legal standing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_krueger Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 This news is a real bummer! I just sent the link to these profiles to myself at home from work the other day, and I hadn't downloaded them yet because I have yet to get my 2200. I recently attended a John Shaw seminar and he told us about these profiles because he said they were very good. Now they are no longer available (I just tried the link and got a 404 error too). Like I said, a definite bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillermo_gutierrez1 Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Beau I am also a new Epson 2200 owner searching for the Lepp profiles. Can I ask you to zip and send them to me please -- at "bobbit1@aol.com". Thanks a heap bg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yves_touchette Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 If anyone could either point me to where these profiles are available or send them to me, that would be great! "yves_touchette@hotmail.com" Thanks alot!-yvest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah_stout Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Please also send them to: noahstout@yahoo.com I love you all. n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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