kphaam81 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Hi everyone, I have just signed up tonight and have been fascinated with the Leica Forum. I'll be able to learn a lot from all of you. I just bought a M4-2 and a M6-TTL, I could not figure out how to set the film speed on the M4-2. The M4-2's film speed dial is different from the M6's. I don't have the M4-2 manual unfortunately. Please show me how. I'm also interested in getting a manual if someone out there has one for sale. A lot of thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_barnett2 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 There is no meter in the M4-2, so you don't need to set the film speed. You can either take a reading with your M6 and transfer the aperture and shutter apeeds, or use a handheld meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy. Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Ha ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 the plate on the back of the M4-2 is cosmetic only... or perhaps you could put a marke with a pencil next to what film is in the camera at any given time... but it does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert_keuken2 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Here's a manual for the M4-P: http://members.fortunecity.com/canoneos/manuals/leicam4p.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kphaam81 Posted March 2, 2003 Author Share Posted March 2, 2003 Thank you all. I'm still confused. Technically a shot is based on the speeds of the film, the shutter, and the lens. On the manual camera such as the Nikon Fm2 there is still the ASA dial, even the Nikon semi-electronic F3. The automatic ones ,point and shoot for instance, of course do not have one. How does the M4-2's film speed work differently from the M6's ? Bert, thanks for the website. The manual does not mention about the film speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert_keuken2 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 The M4-2 does not have an exposure meter, so there's no need for setting a film speed. Shooting well exposed pictures with a meterless Leica M like the M4-2 (or any other meterless camera) requires a handheld exposure meter or an educated guess. The Nikon FM2 and Leica M6 do have exposure meters built-in, thus these camera's require a battery for the internal exposure meter and consequently have a film speed dial you must set. Note that there's no place to insert a battery in a M4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert_smith Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Kent, That dial is only to <I>REMIND</I> you of what film is in the camera. It serves no other function. Some photographers use to carry more than on camera, and would have different film in each... maybe ISO 400 B&W in one and ISO 64 color-slide film in the other. The dial made sure that they didn't use the wrong camera after metering for a specific film with an external meter or exposure chart.<P> That dial spins, but is not connected to anything in the camera. On those other cameras that you mention, like the FM2, the ISO dial is directly connected to the internal meter, so it does have a function towards arriving at the right combination of f-stop and shutterspeed... depending on the film's speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kphaam81 Posted March 2, 2003 Author Share Posted March 2, 2003 Thanks Bert and Albert. I am now cleared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterg Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Kent, The dial on the back of the M4-P and M4-2 doesn't actually spin or move at all. As Charles suggested, you can mark the ASA you're using on it, if you so choose, but unless you find a writing tool to use that is both eraseable and will not mar the surface of camera back, you're better off leaving it alone and noting your film type somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kphaam81 Posted March 2, 2003 Author Share Posted March 2, 2003 Thanks Peter. I couldn't sleep on Saturday night until reading the responses. I enjoy the forum impressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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