steve_taylor3 Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 I have got a IIIc and I think the camera is putting underexposed streaks on the film parallel to the long edge of the frame, i.e. in the direction of the shutter curtain travel. I have read in this forum about this and that it is likely due to a rough edge on the shutter curtains. On short exposures the rough edge causes underexposure of the bits where the 'bumps' on the curtain edge are, thus causing streaking in the direction of the shutter curtain travel. This effect is more pronounced on higher shutter speeds, as the gap between the curtains is progressively narrower and the bumps on the shutter curtain take up more percentage of the gap making the exposure. It is also more pronounced at smaller apertures, as if the imperfections on the shutter curtains were being brought more into focus. This all agrees with what I have found, as I have done tests (pictures of a cloudless blue sky) at 200, 500 and 1000 speeds and the problem gets progressively worse. I also varied the aperture at each speed and it gets worse the smaller the aperture. I do know the shutter curtains were replaced very recently (before I had it), and indeed they look new. I have looked inside my camera and found that the material of the shutter curtains appear to be folded over a piece of metal and sewn, thus making the edge of the curtain. Is this the standard means of sutter curtain construction for screw Leicas? Since the material is folded over the metal, the actual edge is formed by the material and is a bit rough. There are also tiny bits of the fibre of the material coming off this edge (they are like tiny bits of fluff standing straight up from the edge of the curtain). I have an M6 as well and the shutter curtains there have metal edges, which makes much more sense to me, and I don't get the problem with the M6. Has anybody else observed this with a screw camera, or better still any idea of how to cure it? I have thought of painting the edges of the curtain in the hope that the paint will glue the fibres down. Or perhaps I am expecting too much of a 50 year old camera? Apart from this the camera is great and very nice to use. I really am only frightened of 500 and 1000, and I could live without them, but it would be nice to get this fixed. Thanks in advance for any reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Send it to DAG or Sherry, and get it fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Steve: Could you post one of your photos of a cloudless blue sky for the benefit of the British contributors to this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_taylor3 Posted February 6, 2003 Author Share Posted February 6, 2003 Would you believe I actually live in Blighty and took it in Southampton yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcg Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Steve, You've gone to a huge effort to ask a question that can't be answered properly w/o expertise, & the ability to physically handle the camera. Just send the III off to DAG & have it CLA'd. I use two IIICs regularly & have them cleaned every 4-5 years w/o fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger c Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Or try Peter Grisaffi at Camera Repairs and Restoration, Luton. Highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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