justin_ng1 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 <p>So yea, the not sure which is which but on the left side, the outer knob stops turning when it reaches till like the middle between 10 and 25. The second layer just doesn't even turn... Can someone help me? Or does the aperture and the ISO not matter on a RF camera? Thanks!! <img title="Smile :smile:" src="http://www.apug.org/forum/styles/apug/smilies/smile.png" alt=":smile:" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 <p>There is a Russian-specific forum over at the Rangefinder forum that would probably also be a good place to post this..</p> <p>http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=34</p> <p>Everyone on the site will see your post on the site's home page, which is probably many more than will see it here and I would bet you get a response pretty quickly.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_ng1 Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 <p>Thanks mate!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 <p>Also, on-line manual at http://www.russianplaza.com/Kiev%20man/kiev4man.htm<br /> also at Butkus (bless him and keep him) http://www.butkus.org/chinon/russian/kiev-4/kieva-a-splash.htm <br /> Also, when you do set the meter, if yours has one, the settings are likely to be GOST rather than ISO or ASA. Not much different, but different:</p> <blockquote> <p><br /> GOST is a pre-1987 linear standard used in the former Eastern Bloc. It was almost, but not quite identical to the ASA standard. After 1987 the GOST scale was aligned to the ISO scale. GOST markings are only found on pre-1987 photographic equipment (film, cameras, lightmeters, etc.) of Eastern Bloc manufacture.</p> <p align="center"><strong>FILM SPEED</strong></p> <p align="center"><strong>CONVERSION TABLE</strong></p> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center"><strong>GOST</strong></p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center"><strong>ISO</strong></p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center"><strong>DIN</strong><strong>º</strong></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">11</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">12</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">12</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">22</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">25</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">15</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">28</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">32</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">16</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">56</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">64</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">19</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">90</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">100</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">21</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">110</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">125</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">22</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">140</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">180</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">23</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">180</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">200</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">24</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">360</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">400</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">27</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">560</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">650</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">29</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">720</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">800</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">30</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">900</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">1000</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">31</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">1125</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">1250</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">32</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="144"> <p align="center">2880</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">3200</p> </td> <td width="144"> <p align="center">36</p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p align="center">Note: GOST film speeds have recently</p> <p align="center">been adjusted to coincide with ISO settings.</p> <p align="center">This chart is provided for translating values</p> <p align="center">on OLDER cameras and meters.</p> </blockquote> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 <p>Thanks, JDM. I have a recently acquired black Contax III (a Kiev with western pretensions...) with an active meter. This answers my question about setting ASA/ISO.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Willemse Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 <p>On my Kiev-4a (which has no meter, so no ISO setting - no idea for that one), the left ring will indeed only turn a fixed angle - this is to forward the film. To change the shutter speed, you need to lift up the top ring and rotate it. The "second ring" is fixed, and does not turn, it's only there to indicate the speeds. So, to be clear: the left knob is to set shutterspeed.<br> <br /> The aperture is set on the lens itself, and you need to set it before you focus (lock the lens at infinity, rotate to set the aperture, and next unlock it again).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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