garry_teeple1 Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 This is the first film holder I made to hold 4x5 film for processing. It's kind of crude but it works great.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_a Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 That film holder looks great to me! I've been thinking about how to make something like this. I bet you caould sell these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z_z1 Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Pardon my ignorance, but just how does this work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garry_teeple1 Posted January 3, 2003 Author Share Posted January 3, 2003 Eric, the holder allows a sheet of film to be snapped into the four post on the sides which have a slit 1/16" above the base to hold the film. The two post on the side keep the film from sliding out the end. I place the film face up and develop it in trays. The handle allows me to adgitate the film and still keep my hands dry. I use the Ilford method of washing and therefore I can wash the film in the holder quickly. I also have holders for two and four sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_schneider Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Gary, How well does it work? I made a similar device some time back except instead of the rectangular pieces at the edges to hold the film in place I used round rods. Based on experience with other devices I thought the round rods would create less turbulence at the edge of the sheet. It turned out the round rods created a very noticeable pattern of turbulence that was apparent when critically evaluating negatives. It didn't show up on most photos but I began to notice uneven devlopment in clear skies. I did some tests and found the I did have a problem where the rods were located. Keeping the amount of sloshing to a minimum helped but it was a real fine line before the lack of adequate agitation caused different problems. I also made a 2 and 4 sheet version, same problems. In the end I scrapped the whole idea and made a set of tubes from CPVC pipe. Please let me know how this works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garry_teeple1 Posted January 3, 2003 Author Share Posted January 3, 2003 I have not noticed any problems but I am new to large format and have not done any criticle test. I only adegitate for five seconds every thirty seconds and I vary the way I move the holder. The only difference I noticed when using the holder is there are no scratches on the negative which I get if I don't use it. The tabs are 1/8" thick on this holder but only 1/16" thick on the others but I haven't seen any difference even in the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z_z1 Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 That is just to cool! What kind of glue do you use so it doesn't eventually come apart? I was looking at getting some film hangers and using a tupperware box for the chemicals (so I could seal them up after use). Are people having problems with using the hangers? It seems they are easy to come by and cheap. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garry_teeple1 Posted January 4, 2003 Author Share Posted January 4, 2003 Dave, I did some very close inspection of negatives last night and found a dark halo around where the tabs are on most of the negatives. The subjects I shoot make it hard to see sometimes but it is definitly there. I am going to cut down the tabs to where they are only 1/32" above the negative and also cut them in half. I'll let you know how it works out. As for glue, I made the holders out of PVC and use pipe joint solvent. The one in the picture is made from a piece of a 4" pipe. I cut a section out and placed it in the oven to soften and flattened it between some cutting boards. Poor boys have poor ways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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