monte_johnson Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 <p>I need some help here. I am a Leica want to be. M9 with 50mm cron len is out of the question. So do you photographers that use the X2 feel that it is really the Leica look to the images. By that does it produce images that would compare to other Leica lens.</p> <p>There are so many wonderful camera coming out. Now the Fuji X E1 and soon the Sony RX1. Plus there is the X100 and many others. My question is that some buy the X2, so with so many choices I would like to hear why you choose the X2 and are you glad you did. Thanks Monte Johnson.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumpton Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 <p>I don't qualify as an owner, but have the M9 and if I was looking for a small mirrorless camera with APS type sensor size I would probably go for the NEX-7 instead and fit Leica optics to it. However, the simplicity of the X2 controls and automation, improved autofocus and an apparently excellent if fixed lens are good points for the X2. The November 2012 issue of Black + White Photography (UK) has a good if brief review of it. It is quite expensive in England and more pricey than the competition in North America. You need to add a separate and not inexpensive VF, either optical or electronic, if a VF is important to you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte_johnson Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 <p>Thanks Arthur,<br> One of the problems I have I think is that i came from medium format camers and 35mm film camera that really give you the feel of control. I had a tower 19 Olumpus that i fell in love with. Now finally camera companys are paying attension to what photographers want. I know I would love a M9 but price is out of the question. Thought about a M8 but there are many newer camera much less expensive that can use Leica glass. I guess I thought this might be as close as I get.<br> I have considering waiting for the Sony RX1 full frame with 35 f2 lens. 2800 is a lot for a compact with no viewfinder. I have considered the NEX-7 but some say wait buy the fuji X-E1 with 35 f2 lens. Quality as good as Leica glass. I know I would have to buy viewfinder for x2 so ad on to 2000 already up front. it is hard today to decide.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_boyle3 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 <p>I was in a position similar to yours several months ago. I wanted a camera that could utilize the M lenses I have with my M2 and M4. I couldn't justify the cost of an M9, did not like the very small size of the Sony Nex cameras, then was surprised to find an essentially "new in the box" Panasonic Lumix GF1 at an excellent price. I added a new Panasonic M adaptor and 25mm Summilux lens and have been very pleased with the results. The camera feels better in my hands than the Sony offerings and there is a wide selection of micro four-thirds lenses available if I want to go beyond those I have with my Leicas. You can take good pictures with all of the cameras mentioned, just go with the one that is most comfortable for you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte_johnson Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 <p>Thanks John,<br> I have time to figure this out. I cannot do anyhting until first of the year. All I know is I want one I will keep and use because it might be the last I own. I have no problem with a good fixed lens. I want a good size sensor to produce good prints and better detail in darker areas. I will look at GF1. I believe if I dont' want a big investment I will look at x100 prices are pretty good.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 <p>I hope you find something you like. You might want to post your questions in a forum other than "Leica and Rangefinders".</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte_johnson Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 <p>thanks I might change to another forum.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELETE THIS ACCOUNT Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 <p>There's the Ricoh GXR with Mount A12 - a modular camera system with a dedicated M mount module. It's an APS-C sensor though, and 12.3 megapixels only, but treats M lenses correctly. Like the M9 the GXR/M has no anti-alias filter. Ricoh's user interface is photographer friendly rather than consumer friendly. Most seem to love it. My one gripe? Ricoh has gone awfully quiet since acquiring Pentax and we don't know what the future has in store for the otherwise excellent GXR. Ok, two gripes - I wish they'd update the M mount module to 16MP or better yet, a 24MP full frame unit. I've no doubt they'd sell a ton of the latter.</p> <p>If 35mm field of view is what you like, perhaps you should consider the RX1 or at least have a good hard look at it after it hits the streets and photographers have had some time with it. I'm selling a couple of M lenses that the RX1 makes redundant and in exchange will get a state of the art full frame sensor, fantastic low noise performance while retaining great detail at higher sensitivity, and what looks to be a very nice Zeiss Sonnar 35/2 implementation and autofocus in the bargain. A fixed lens camera is not a drawback for me, particularly when the lens is a 35mm - I shoot this focal length every single day and only use others quite infrequently indeed. No, it isn't a rangefinder and it won't even mount M lenses so more of this particular discussion should move elsewhere.<br> Just a snapshot from a walk this week... sun is so unusual here in Vancouver in the fall/winter!<br> <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mmA4Ia6sbcA/UKBpoW7h1DI/AAAAAAAACxI/DZ5uahTYCGA/s800/20121109-R0019058.jpg" alt="" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_wilson Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 The Fujis are the closest you can get in terms of handling to a Leica. You can also consider the M8 which is still a fine camera (IQ will be as good as the x2 - probably better) which has got quite cheap these days. Of course you still need Leica glass. Unfortunately if you want a Leica for the way it handles then there really is only Leica to choose from. Leica does digital in a very different way and you really don't have to use or play with the digital bits. Apart from occasionally changing the ISO and formatting a card I rarely use the rear screen or menus. This is completely different from any other digital body I have. In fact I find that M43 etc.. Are fussier to handle than my Canon DSLRs as everything is through the menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte_johnson Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 <p>Thanks Michael and Philllip,<br> The New Sony RX1 will probably produce good quality images. so would M8 or Like you say the Fuji might be as close as I get. Guess I am no different than anyone else that desires a certain camera. You can't always have what you want.<br> I see amazing images from all these cameras. I do not know how many of you own M9 because of the cost, but I am glad you do. I even thought about saving for a used one. Prices are bound to drop. Then there are lens. I then thought of Voightlander or Zeiss ZM lens instead of Leica.I remember I sold My Rollie GX to buy Nikon D200 some time ago. Not a good trade. When the X100 came out I saw a ray of hope from the huge DslR cameras. So the Fuji holds a high spot in the line up.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_lammers Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 <p>Monte,<br> Have you considered the Sigma DP 1&2 Merrill cameras? The IQ is amazing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte_johnson Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 <p>Yes Les I have, but for the price the x100 can be had. Sigma has always interested me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd_k Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 <p>I have been using Leica X1 for some time now and I really like the image quality of the lens. The camera really does everything well except the autofocus is a bit slow (but very accurate). I also have the Sony NEX 5N/7, and the Ricoh GXR 28/50 lens modules. Leica X1/X2 is a much simpler and easier camera to operate. If 35mm focal length is not a problem for you, I would highly recommend the X2. Of course, you can wait for the up-coming Sony RX-1. But IMHO, RX-1's asking price is too high. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte_johnson Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 <p>The one reason I considered the X1 was price is half what the new x2 is. I probably would be happy with it. I am used to 35 to 50 lens so that works for me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd_k Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 <p>If you're not that much into the add-on EVF, the X1 is not a bad camera to have. I felt the resolution is sufficient as is. I have mine with me all the time and it certain served it's purpose. </p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd_k Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 <p>delete </p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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monte_johnson Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 <p>EFV is nice but i have used the LX3 and LX5 for some time and have got used to LCD. I bought them for the lens just wanted to have a great lens with a bigger senor.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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