bob_salomon Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 "Bob will agree with me on that concept" That I do as well as the required apertures. As for the electronic Compur shutter it requires a less then common (if not discontinued) battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
light-zone Posted December 7, 2002 Author Share Posted December 7, 2002 The battery required for the electronic shutters is available in many regular camera stores here in Germany. And if they are not readily available where you live, there is a trick of combining 2 smaller batteries, that when combined, work fine. Which 2 batteries they are, I cannot remember, but if someone needs the info, I can dig it up for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_bradley1 Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Well whaddaya know, there is 600mm/9 Ronar in a #5 shutter for sale on eBay. I shameless stole the picture. <P> The description is in German. Here it is: <PRE> Serien-Nr. 10394681. Sehr guter Zustand. 2 Schutzkappen. Cambo Objektivplatte. Rarität, wird nicht mehr gebaut. Neuwert 1992: 2.000 � </PRE><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_bradley1 Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 And here is a 1000mm/f16 Apo-Ronar-CL in a #5 eletronic shutter too! <PRE> Serien-Nr. 10788360. Sehr guter Zustand. 2 Schutzkappen. Cambo Objektivplatte. Rarität, wird nicht mehr gebaut. Neuwert 1992: 7.500 � </PRE> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
light-zone Posted December 8, 2002 Author Share Posted December 8, 2002 here is the more common electronic shutter which I believe was being referred to in the post above, also from the German ebay<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
light-zone Posted December 8, 2002 Author Share Posted December 8, 2002 Whoops wrong again, but it's a nice pic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_salomon Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 And in order to operate that #5 Compur shutter you need the control box that plugs into that multi contact plug that is visible in the photo. That control box has not been available for quite some time. Wonder if he has one for each lens? Or one for both lenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerg_krusche Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Bob, both 5 FS shutter and Control box with cable are available on the used items market. I use them and am very satisfied. Because of the large and mechanically strong front and rear threads of the shutter I am using the shutter to front mount long lenses (750/890/1000) and to mount via an adapter the front and rear cells of the 1000 and 1200 mm Apo Ronars. Although discontinued for a while this shutter is built to last. These shutters when new were not amongst the cheap ones, and I am happy they appear on the market from time to time. Best Joerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerg_krusche Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Hi all, for those of you still on this thread, a pic on the long Apo ronars. Best Joerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
light-zone Posted December 9, 2002 Author Share Posted December 9, 2002 Hey Joerg, either you have some real connections at Rodenstock, or you shpould be more careful not to bring your lenses near moving saw blades! ;-) Thanks to all that participated in this thread. It was a real learning experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerg_krusche Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 William, you are right, I only sacrificed the famous 8-element version of the Apo Ronar 16/1000 as to be seen. I cut my fingers on the 6-element 16/1000 CL and then gave up. Will give you a call this evening. Best Joerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_salomon Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 "800mm F9 Apo Ronar-S with a footnote that the S is for a Apo-Ronar in Shutter" Not according to Rodenstock. The 520mm and 650mm Apo Ronar S lenses were developed to make direct offset plates at f16. Nothing to do with a shutter. However a dealer catalog somewhere may have used an S to indicate that it a lens was in shutter. There was also an Apo Ronar M that was for printed circuit board manufacturing. As for the Compur Electronic 5 shutters the mounting threads are 85mm. The 600mm Apo Ronar has a 110mm screw thread on it's mount so an adapter will make it slower then f9. The 1000mm f14 had a 120mm thread and the f16 had a 135mm thread mount. The control unit uses 6 C cells to power it or an optional AC adapter. The adapter was made in 220V only and was available in 110V on special order only. The cables were available in 1.5m, 4m and 10m and extensions in 4 and 10m. This shutter has not been available for at least 2 decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_bradley1 Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Joerg, Thanks for the great picture! But all it shows is a Ronar with eight half-elements. Isn't that the same as a Ronar with four full-elements? I mean, what's the big deal? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerg_krusche Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 David, you got it !! It's the universal lens ! Best Joerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_diekwisch1 Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Just expressing my appreciation for the highest standard of the debate. Wow. I have both, a 750mm APO-Germinar and a 600mm Klimsch APO-Ronar. In Germany the Klimsch lenses and cameras were held in highest esteem. Both are top, of course. Anyway, I learned a lot. Thanks to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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