t_phan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>Hello everyone,<br> I bought the Nikkor 24-70mm lense recently and I need a filter. One of the associates at BelAir Camera in Westwood recommended that I should buy the Heliopan 77mm which cost about $107. I thought it was too much.<br> Is there another filter that you recommed for the Nikkor 24-70mm?</p> <p>Thanks very much!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curt wiler Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>What do you want a filter for? The lens is perfectly happy without one unless there is a specific purpose.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis_g Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p> Curt's right, but if you must have a protective filter, after buying an $1,800+ lens, a high-quality filter like a Heliopan or B&W seems the way to go.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>Heliopan and B+W and some others are very high quality filters. I think the top-quality Hoya filters are quite good (SMC, not the bargain line). Any decent 77mm filter is going to cost quite a bit more than an old 49mm filter. Sometimes you can find upper level filters going used on eBay. Of course, these are an easily counterfeited item, so buyer beware.</p> <p>Since you don't say, I'm resuming that you want a "protection" filter for which either a clear filter or a UV filter would do. The latter will have a slight warming effect on the images, but that hardly matters for digital, especially if you have automatic white balance selected.</p> <p>However, as you have already found out, there are different schools of thought on whether you should use any such filter at all. Any additional glass, even the best, is bound to have some tiny effect but the arguments are about what level of effect is significant. Many of us do keep a clear filter on the lens when we're walking about (I won't tell my story about the ice cream cone again) or in an inherently 'dirty' place, but remove it when we are engaged in 'critical' work.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond W Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>I went to the ?Bay and got my B+W 77mm MRC 010 #58460 filter for around $60. I have been happy with them. In fact, I got a whole bunch of B&W, including the Kassemann Polarizer from the same supplier. <br> If it is counterfeit they did an excellent job down to the package box and the description sheet inside. Is there any way to tell if the thing is counterfeit?<br> JDM, please tell us about the ice cream cone. Many of us have not heard it. Please. Please.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Freeman Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>Order a 77mm Nikon NC multi-coated filter from B&H Photo for $65 if you must use a protective filter. Nikon glass, Nikon coatings, just as good as the artificially overpriced Heliopan filter.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>The Ice Cream Cone story (<em>again</em>, if you remember this, skip this post ;)<br /> I was shooting at the local State Fair. I had my Canon 5D with its EF 24-105mm lens on it and my 20D with its EF-S 17-85mm lens hanging on me.</p> <p>I decided to get a snack at a trailer-stand and as I was getting my pig on a stick or whatever, this kid, holding his father's hand and in the other hand a three-dip ice milk cone, jams his ice milk into the front of my EF 24-105mm lens.</p> <p>The kid starts to cry, and the father irately insists that I should replace the kid's cone which my lens had spoiled. I suggested that would be fair enough if he would replace my camera lens in return, since the only thing in motion here was the kid.</p> <p>Fortunately, the lens had a Hoya UV filter on it and so I took it off later and washed it under a water fountain. Both lens and filter survived, but I was glad I hadn't taken off the filter earlier.</p> <p>It's not as dramatic as the flecks of mud from the motorcycle race or the blood from the boxing match, but it does illustrate that you may sometimes want to practice "safe photography."</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_phan Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thanks everyone. I'm looking for a protective filter for the lense and nothing fancy. Is the B+W 77mm Clear UV Haze with Multi-Resistant Coating (010M) for 70$ on Amazon good? http://www.amazon.com/77mm-Clear-Haze-Multi-Resistant-Coating/dp/B0000BZLBQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1327507586&sr=8-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwg Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>Yes, that is a fine filter to use.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond W Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>Thanks JDM for the ice cream cone story. <br> It would be a disaster without the protective filter. It also says to me: stay away from kids with ice cream cone and a muscular father. I can see the logic of not using a protective filter on great lenses, but I always have one on just to feel safe. <br> If Amazon has a 77mm MRC B&W for $70, go for it. You may want to check out an internet store called Maxsaver.<br> Raymond</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 <p>I would echo what Michael Freeman suggests. I use Nikon NC filters if I want protection filters: <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/121298-REG/Nikon_2482_77mm_Clear_NC_Glass.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/121298-REG/Nikon_2482_77mm_Clear_NC_Glass.html</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjm photo Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 <p>I also use the Nikon NC filter on my 24-70mm AFS lens. I recommend that if you only put a filter on one lens, let this be the one to protect. It is expensive, but it is also one of the finest lenses I have ever used.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 <p>You've bought an expensive Nikon lens, so why not get a Nikon filter to fit? However, the quality or effectiveness of a filter isn't always commensurate with its price tag. See this <a href="http://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html">UV filter comparative test here.</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 <p>I have the Nikon 77mm NC filter for situations where the lens may be exposed to sand / salt spray / rain / snow, but I very rarely need it. I would choose the Nikon filter because it has a very thin rim and Nikon sells a lot of them so the cost is reasonable and I would guess that Nikon knows best how to design a filter which impacts image quality of their Nikon lenses as little as possible. The thin rim helps avoid increased vignetting at the 24mm setting.</p> <p>I don't use filters on my lenses except when really needed. But this is a highly personal choice.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 <p>Skip the "protective" filter and just use your lens cap when not taking a shot, and also always have a lens hood on. The only time I had a lens element destroyed I had a filter on. It broke, and the broken glass really did a number on the lens! Nothing like glass to scratch up glass. I do often use a polarizer for daytime shots, especially around water.<br> <a href="http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-feb-05.shtml">http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-feb-05.shtml</a></p> <p>Kent in SD</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robatkinson Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 The B+W multi coated UV filter and the HOYA HD UV filter are both very good filters for quite reasonable prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_hunt Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 <p>It's not advisable to skip a protective filter when you're in a situation with salt spray or sand or other debri flying about. My favourite filter for my 24-70 when shooting in these situations is the Hoya HD Protective filter. Virtually unbreakable glass and I can't see any diffence in image quality with it on or off. Not cheap but very, very good - if you need a protective filter.<br> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT6wBQR7iqE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT6wBQR7iqE</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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