michaelmiller Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 <p>Is there any difference between the 120 film cassette of the Mamiya RZ67 Pro and the RZ67 Pro II? I have read somewhere that the Pro II back uses no light seals at all. Is this true?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christoph_sensen Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 <p>That's not true, there are rubberized light seals on the version II backs. I don't have any version I backs to compare to. I bought version II only, because they feature two film counters, one being on top in each orientation vs. the single one on version I models.<br> Christoph</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmiller Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 <p>Rubberized, so not these deteriorating foam light seals then? Now that's an improvement.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_angel Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 <p>Don`t know if I`m lucky, my v.II backs doesn`t use light seals in the usual way, foam or rubber... cheaper construction?<br /> As Cristoph mentions, there is one unique <em>rubbe</em>r part that block the light at the hinge.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmiller Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 <p>Great, the I know what to go look for then; the Pro II backs. Thanks people.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_batters Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 <p>The ProII backs use a light trap method or inter meshing, channel & blade design for a seal.<br /> The original Pro backs used foam seals. <br /> The inserts are not interchangeable across series models; Pro inserts must be used with a Pro housing,<br /> and ProII inserts must be used in a ProII housing.<br /> As always though, any 6X7 housing can hold 120 or 220 inserts, as long as the insert is series compatible;<br /> Pro to Pro, or ProII to ProII.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_sawyer Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 <p>The Pro backs are actually better built than the Pro II backs. Cheaper plastic door and other parts on the Pro II are metal on the Pro backs. Though they have light seals, they dont' seem to fail the way most foam seals might, I have Pro backs from quite a long time back and work fine on the orignal seals, no leakage or crumbling.</p> <p>-Ed</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcrane_gallery Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 <p>I'll go along with Ed's comments. Recently I ordered 2 Pro II backs from Adorama. They sent one Pro II, and one Pro by mistake. I called and they were willing to swap it out, but I gave it a try and immediately liked the feel of it over the Pro II. It had a different sound and was a bit more solid feeling. I don't miss the second counter, either. Not that the Pro II's have been disappointing, but I was happy enough with the Pro that I'll continue to search out the Pro backs for the build and the savings. Haven't had any light seal issues with any backs. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmiller Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 <p>I decided to go for a Pro II back. I can live with a little more plastic but not with those decaying, leaking foam light seals. The design is just not right. Only by opening and closing the door of a Pro I back, some of the seals on the film insert are easily damaged. Removing and replacing all the different pieces of foam is not my hobby. Also I really like the second counter on the Pro II back, because I mostly shoot in portrait mode. You can still read the film count from the top. A nice detail if you ask me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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