david_rose3 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 This is not a question- just a tip. I was packing my 4x5 field kit for a trip from Detroit to Yosemite and trying to think of ways to save weight and bulk (we've all been there). I was folding my Zone VI darkcloth, which is a great piece of equipment but very heavy, when I had an idea for a lighter, smaller alternative. I packed my REI polartech black pull-over instead. The plan was to use it as a sweater in the cooler air of the higher elevations and also as a darkcloth by pulling the neck hole over my head and putting the waist opening over the back of the camera. It saved a lot of weight and bulk and worked very well as a darkcloth- I almost prefer it to my regular cloth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_jordan3 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 i've been using a 3x3' swatch of black tee-shirt material as my dark cloth all these years, except when i forget it, in which case i use whatever jacket i happen to be wearing! ~cj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiba Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 My brand new darkcloth is made from two sheets of necktie material (kind of a heavy, silky material). Basically I have two layers, one black and the other white, sewn together at the edges and then across the middle. The white side goes on the outside so I don't cook. It was very cheap, folds up really small, is lightproof and also hangs well. In use so far I find it best to kind of scrunch it between the monorail and the bellows so it forms a tube, although maybe velcro's a better option. I like it a lot, but then again it's not been windy so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_coppin Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 A tube may not be a bad idea - after playing around with a number of velcroed elasticised variations, I was watching a TV program that was profiling a photography student who was shooting architectural interiors. Her darkcloth was a tube of velvet-like cloth abt a 1-1 1/2 ft in diameter (50cm) that was around the GG (a Sinar if I remember correctly) at one end, and the other end was basically just big enough around for her to easily stick her head into. Considering the flopping around I do with the more traditional blankets, her idea I think has some real merit and I might make one up and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_burns1 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 On one photographic trip, I somehow managed to forget my darkcloth. Luckily, the weather was cool and I had taken a jacket along. This particular jacket had a high collar that pulls up over your chin as well as a pull cord along the bottom hem to prevent cold air from entering there. All I had to do was zip the jacket up, pull it over my head upside down with my head stuck through the collar. The high collar provided a very efficient light trap. I could then drape the waist opening of the jacket over the camera so that when I pull the hem cord tight it sealed nicely around the camera. This arrangement worked beautifully, but for some reason I still use the darkcloth even if I have the jacket along. This problem, though, was much easier to solve than the time I forgot the tripod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian_ngasi1 Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Go to your local Bed, Bath and Beyond or Linen and Things and get a black laundry bag. You may want to open the otherside and put elastic band on the opening and voila! Very light and very good. I used it in East Africa this summer and I was happy with it. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce watson Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 The people at BTZS already thought of this and made a product very similar to using a pull-over. You can see it at: http://viewcamerastore.com/ In the categories (upper left hand corner of web page) click on "BTZS Products" then click on BTZS Focusing Hoods. My 4x5 hood is about the same cost/weight as a fleece, and it works a lot better for me (I like to breath when I do this kind of work). I use it to wrap my camera body in when it's in the backpack. Doesn't flap around in the wind either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitri Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 I too have used similar tricks, but recently I bought an in line viewer. You just clamp it on the GG and do not need to bother with a darkcloth.Not the best solution (if you need to use a loupe) but makes life a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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