cash_chew Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 <p>My D80 would not let me to do program shift in P-mode when flash is used. Is this normal?<br> When flash is not used, is there any difference to use A-mode or P-mode with shift?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 <p>The shift allows you to use a different shutter speed - f-stop combination....in P-mode, you get the same exposure with more (or less) depth-of-field. The P-mode exposure is figured out by the little computer in the camera as the best estimated exposure. By adding <strong>flash</strong>, the best estimated exposure is just that...the D80 won't give you much exposure to adjust using the program shift (as you have found out, it doesn't allow you to do so.)</p> <p>If you read your instruction booklet, you'd find out that the A-mode gives you the choice of f-stop, while the D80 determines the best shutter speed. The P-mode (shift or not) gives you the best estimate (shutter speed and f-stop) exposure for the ISO you have selected -- based on how bright the scene is that you are photographing.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash_chew Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 <p>Does that mean that when flash is not used, the P-mode with shift is a subset of A-mode, where A-mode allow you to use any available f-stop, whereas P-mode will not let you shift through the whole range of available f-stop? Yesterday I tried to test it out in dim ambient light and I don't have any problem to shift from f-1.4 to f16 of a 50mm/f-1.4 lens. So given certain light condition, does that mean I won't be able to do that just as in A-mode?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 <p>It is not a good idea to use the Program mode when you use flash. When the flash is on, the P mode restricts you to some very limited shutter speed/aperture combinations.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 <p>"Does that mean that when flash is not used, the P-mode with shift is a subset of A-mode, where A-mode allow you to use any available f-stop, whereas P-mode will not let you shift through the whole range of available f-stop?"</p> <p>No. P [Program mode] means the camera will pick the best f-stop and shutter speed combination. The Program *Shift means you can change either the f-stop or the shutter speed, and the Program mode will determine the matching f-stop or shutter speed to make the best exposure.</p> <p>A [Automatic] mode is where you pick the f-stop, and the D80 will pick the shutter speed for what it considers the best-guess exposure....depending on the scene's brightness and the ISO you have dialed into the camera.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash_chew Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 <p>Hi Jerry,<br> Sorry for not being clear. I meant A for Aperture priority</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 <p>Jerry, Flex Program (P*) means you change the aperture and shutter simultaneously while keeping the overall exposure the same. In the program mode, you cannot adjust only the aperture or only the shutter speed.</p> <p>I used to use the program mode a lot, and I treat it as a more advanced aperture priority mode.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash_chew Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 <p>Shun, does that mean that P* can do the same as in Aperture mode when flash is not used?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 <p>Nikon cameras show P* instead of just P once you shift to an aperture/shutter speed combination that is not the default.</p> <p>For example, you set your camera to P and switch it on. The camera may pick 1/125 sec and f5.6; that is the default P selection. If you rotate your command dial to change that to 1/60 sec, f8 or 1/250 sec, f4, the display will change from P to P*.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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