magnus2 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 <p>I was in a big grass field with very blue sky in the middle of the day. I wanted to underexpose the blue sky by a stop to get that DEEP blue color and then I wanted to add my flash to expose the subject properly. However, by big green grass was also under exposed (as the sky was). I guess using one flash to increase the grass field by one stop is out of the question so how do I get that blue sky but normal green and properly exposed subject?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean_yves_mead Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Have you tried a graduated filter to darken the sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 <p>A polarizing filter comes to my mind.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_meador Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 <p>I'm not sure how to get the result you're after at mid-day, but I did something similar in later afternoon on a cloudy day. I did end up using 3 flashes though - one on the subject, two on the grass from either side. To intensify the blue I set the white balance manually to a low setting (i.e. incandescent), then put CTO gel material over the flashes to warm up their light back to "normal". The grass is not all lit however - some dark areas.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_meador Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 <p>Btw - the sky was much brighter in real life than it appears in the shot. I exposed it down a couple of stops I believe.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 <p>The properly exposed subject is not a problem if you use flash or reflector to light them. The grass--not a lot you can do outside of the grass around the subject in the same plane (more or less) as the subject, as Robert's image shows. If the grass extends from under your feet, under the subject(s)' feet, and beyond, you cannot get it all exposed properly and at the same time, underexpose the sky.</p> <p>A graduated filter might help. A polarizer might help, but probably, post work on the sky and possibly on the grass, would be the most workable thing,</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix_mizioznikov Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 <p>this was strait out of camera with no filter. 1/200 shutter, about f/13. iso about 100.</p> <p><img src="http://www.felixtm.com/People/People/ggg18249/859343875_gntLa-M.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="400" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus2 Posted May 27, 2010 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 <p>Great shot Felix. How did you set up the lighting?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix_mizioznikov Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 <p>just of camera strobe on a stand. it was really windy so i did not use any modifiers. After photoshopping the logo from the shorts the image ended up here...</p><p>http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-53717830/stock-photo-man-with-arms-outstretched.html</p><p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_thrower Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 <p>Hi Everyone<br />I love shooting outdoors and underexposing the sky and background and using flash to fill. I shot this picture with a single 500W/s Gemini with small softbox and Travelpak battery. It was taken mid afternoon on a bright sunny day.<br />Best regards<br />Dave<br /><a href="http://www.david-thrower.blogspot.com">www.david-thrower.blogspot.com</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_thrower Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 <p>Sorry here's the picture.<br> Best regards<br> Dave</p> <div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_bill Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 <p>Dave, was the flash fill or main? Looks like your softbox is high left from rectangular catchlight, creating the nose shadow, using sun as fill for shadows and darkening sky with the light power. Looks like nose/chin shadows are softened a bit from the soft box rather than created by full sun. If so, where was sun? Asking because I like the shot. Love the feel of it. The blonde hair separates nicely from the dark bg without needing a hair light too. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_thrower Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 <p>Hi Bob<br> Glad you like the photo - thanks mate it's always good to get positive feedback.<br> I took the shot at around 3pm last week here in England and I think the sun was behind my left shoulder as the shot was taken facing north ish. I underexposed the natural daylight by around 2 stops as the shot was taken at ISO 100 at F16 and at 1/200th of a second (from memory). Effectively the flash was the main light because the background was very underexposed to give the feeling of dusk in the shot. I have to admit I don't use a light meter outside of the studio as speed is the key (people hang around watching and the models get a bit nervous) so I use the LCD screen to check the effect I get.<br> I only ever use one light when out on location and can overpower the daylight with a 500W/s flash head unless it's really bright - full sun at midday. I find that having the sun behind the model works very well too as you get a lovely rim light around the hair and body. I took some like this yesterday and will post a shot in my profile tomorrow when I get the chance.<br> If I can be of any help please drop me an email and I'll do my best to help you out.<br> Best regards<br> Dave<br> <a href="http://www.david-thrower.blogspot.com">www.david-thrower.blogspot.com</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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