steve_nicholls1 Posted October 28, 1999 Share Posted October 28, 1999 I read with interest a thread on coffee as a developer for film and figured even though April 1st had gone the authour wasn't serious, however I have just come from my darkroom which smells very strongly of Esspresso coffee. I went to a site where some info was posted on why coffee might work as a developer but the dev times were very long and I'm an impatient person. I looked at the idea and created my own formula as a two bath developer. I had a 100 asa film I had shot with nothing important on it so mixed up the brew. My wife and I had made a pot of coffee so the first ingredient was at hand. I added a small amount of Metol to the coffee [no milk or sugar] and that was the first part done. The second bath was the alkali and for this I used Potassium Hydroxide. I didn't think I would get anything at all from this brew but when I lifted the lid after the fixer there were images on the film, very faint but images. The negs appeared to have very little infomation. I dried them and put a grade 4 filter in my Beseler and did a print. Amazing. The tone range was superb very good black, very good white and everything in between. The thing that really amazed me was the grain structure. APX 100 looked almost as fine as APX25 Formula: Coffee Strong black as you get from the Esspresso machine that sits on the gas ring. Bath one 300mls of coffee to 300mls water a quarter teaspoon of Metol Bath two 600 mls water one and a half teaspoons Potassium Hydroxide flakes. Temp about 26 - 28c Bath one 10 mins Bath two 5 mins Do not rinse or stop bath between bath 1 and 2 Gentle inversion of the tank once every minute. My film had already been shot at 100 asa but I would overexpose by 1 stop [50asa] to get better density. I hope you have fun if you try this. Steve Nicholls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levin_haegele1 Posted October 29, 1999 Share Posted October 29, 1999 Steve, after the first and second baths, do you contiue using fix, hypo, water, or does the whole development process just call for those two baths and nothing else? thanks...levin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msitaraman Posted October 29, 1999 Share Posted October 29, 1999 Those prints must have a real edge to them (weak joke). BTW, I'm curious, does the coffee stain the film base ? I've read about this before, <a href=http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-coffee.html>over here</a>, I realized. But congratulations on an original effort nonetheless. Apparently, the development of XTOL proceeded from speculating about the use of ascorbic acid as a developer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolland_elliott Posted October 29, 1999 Share Posted October 29, 1999 Don't you guys have anything better to do? Peace Rolland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_brown1 Posted October 29, 1999 Share Posted October 29, 1999 Far out, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squareframe Posted October 30, 1999 Share Posted October 30, 1999 hopefully a Starbuck's marketing guy won't read this, else we'll start seeing racks of Tri-X and TMax along side bags of Verona and Italian Espresso. I can see it now .. photo.net debates on what the best brew is for Delta 3200. times, dilutions, and favourite bean. I have heard the tonal qualities of TMax 100, simmered in a soup of the North African coastal java bean is marvelous. cannot confirm this however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarlson Posted October 31, 1999 Share Posted October 31, 1999 Steve, I'm heading down to starbucks right now, do you recommend the SSumatra, or the Kenya? I'm partial to drinking the Sumatra, so I think I'll try my temperatures a little hotter than you did (and shorten the times)... or do you pour it back into a decanter for warming before drinking? also, I'm thinking from now on we should refer to the liquid quantities in 'cups' vs. mL's... (gets me confused when I'm brewing 10-12 cups, then have to convert to mL's...) Also, does this mean I have to use stop bath, and fixer in stead of cream and sugar? I mean I like stop bath and cookies as much as the next guy, but I don't know if I could get by without sugar... :-) Thanks for posting this unique idea... I just couldn't help myself, Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan_eerala1 Posted October 31, 1999 Share Posted October 31, 1999 Don't want to be a party-pooper, but in some way this formula reminds me of the good old D-23, where only ingredients are metol and natrium sulphite as a preservator. If the doctor forbidden you to use coffee, try to develop the film with just metol alone, I'll think you still get some maybe exellent exposures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie_weidenboerner Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 obviously if you are all here you have some knowledge of using coffee as a developer. for school i am doing a project along those lines and was wondering what the concentration of stopbath you used. did you just mix like the package said to do under normal development conditions or did you dilute it because coffee isnt as strong as the normal developer. if you could write me a message as soon as possible it would be much appreciated. thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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