ccommins Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 For Christmas my wonderful husband gave a D300s. I was so excited, today is the first time I really got to look it over, browse the owners manual. Now my excitement has gone to being overwhelmed. I am use to a D80. Anyone else feel like this when you upgraded to a new camera. Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_a5 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>I don't read manuals! Seriously, just play around with it and then you will start looking up the things you want to know. Soon, the manual will not seem so foreign--and I seriously don't read manuals until I need to know something. Then, once I know the basics, I read the manual--things sort themselves out pretty quickly.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>Conceptually, Carol, very little is different. A big difference: many of the things you used to have to go digging into the D80's menu system to change are now right there on your camera as easy to use physical controls.<br /><br />Remember what really matters:<br /><br />1) The ISO setting makes the camera more or less sensitive to light (at the cost of some image quality as you raise the number higher, to make it more sensitive. You can turn on and off the camera's automatic adjusting of this parameter as you see fit.<br /><br />2) Aperture and Shutter settings do just what they've always done. You can adjust them manually, or put the camera into either Aperture Priority, or Shutter Priority mode. Or, you can just throw the thing in "P" mode so it will work on cruise control while you get accustomed to the camera.<br /><br />You have more options than you're used to for focus points and focus behaviors, but the default modes are very effective. Just take it one step at a time, relax, and enjoy that tremendous new camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>What the heck - it's a camera! What's different about f/stops and shutter speeds, auto-focus and which button makes it go POP.</p> <p>Skim the manual to see what new features are there, and bore in on details when you have time. By now, you know what you need to know.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Schaefer Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>Put the manual down, pick the camera up and do some good old fashioned shooting - the camera differs in details from the D80 - and you can read up on those in due time.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>All new, modern digital cameras are "overwhelming". Just set it on "P" to start with and keep track of what it is doing. Carry the manual with you so you can look up any puzzlement about something unexpected. Underneath it's not a different creature than your older camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_hooper1 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>Carol,</p> <p>I felt a little disoriented with my new Nikon D90 to begin with. I went through the manual, yellow highlighter in hand, while laying on the couch with the camera on my chest and a 50mm attached, so I could try operations out as I proceeded through the manual. Still, even after that grueling experience, I felt like I hadn't had enough exposure to feel completely confident, so I purchased, "Nikon D90 for Dummies", by Julie Adair King. </p> <p>Julie and I just hit it off, and after reading her guide, I'm feeling much more confident. I've purchased Thom Hogan's guides for my D70 and D80 in the past, and though they are very comprehensive, I usually fall asleep reading them. </p> <p>I recommend you try the "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D300s-Dummies-Computer-Tech/dp/0470571535/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261875258&sr=1-1">Nikon D300s for Dummies</a>", also written by Julie Adair King.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_r. Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>The new camera manual can be pretty intimidating if you try to read and remember it all at once. I have three ways of dealing with that. </p> <ul> <li>Start using the camera after having read the basics </li> <li>When I need to exercise a particular capability, look for that section.</li> <li>Use it for bed time reading -- you learn a little and then it puts you to sleep.</li> </ul> <p>Also, some of the Nikons have a little short summary manual you can stick in your gadget bag, so you don't need to worry about beating up the full manual when you are out photographing. It also weighs less.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_wilson1 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>No question. I had been shooting a long time with film Nikon's and Hasselblads when I picked up a pair of D200s last February. I'll probably get the menus right by February 2011. My RAW NEF stuff looks terrible and I have excellent lighting and exposure skills. So yes there is definitely a learning curve for some of us.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_h.1 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>Use the basics at first. Learn a little at on each occasion instead of all at once. You will know and be comfortable with the camera soon enough.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivid_earth_photographics Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>The biggest difference is that everything you ultimately found annoying or limiting or frustrating in the wonderful D80 (I still love mine--my first DSLR and now my backup) is fixed in the D300 series. Give it a week or so. You are going to absolutely love it. And if you need to ease into it, just set it on P and enjoy it until you are up to figuring it all out a little. But really, it'll be fairly intuitive once you start. <br> Reading the manual you are going to find yourself saying, "Omg! That's such a better way to do ____," and "that's all I have to do to change this or turn that on? Wow!"</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_south Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 <p>(1) Set the Mode to "P".</p> <p>(2) Make sure that the little switch on the front is set to C or S (not M).</p> <p>(3) Set the quality and size of image that you want. (JPEG Large is a good start.)</p> <p>(4) Presto! You're ready to go! Come back to the manual when you want to learn something new, but this should be enough to get you started.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Brennan Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>Carol,</p> <p>I'd also add to the good advise here that you should not be afraid to use the ISO at higher settings like 1250, 1600 to achieve faster shutter speeds if desired - the D300s produces significantly less noise penalised images at higher ISO settings than the D80 you have upgraded from.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoungman Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>Dan's advice (among others') is good. Since you've already used a D80, I'd recommend Thom Hogan's guide <http://www.bythom.com/nikond300guide.htm>. It's not a basic intro book (like say the Magic Lantern books). Instead, it explains the controls and settings, makes suggestions for which combinations you should use, with explanations of why. The electronic version is long and the accompanying printed book is a briefer version small enough to fit into the camera bag. The book also comes with some additional guides (for example for the Nikon software).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advid Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>...anything new is great for a few days...then the 'novelty' begins to wear off....it then becomes just another tool in the bag...</p> <p>...dont brag about it and show off to your lesser peers - just make sure you use it to take even better shots....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakon_soreide Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>If you're already used to a dSLR, I'd just go straight into taking pictures, and if you can't find the functions that you are used to using from your other camera, then you look them up.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccommins Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thank you everyone for your response. I think I'm just too comfortable with my D80. I'll try your suggestions and definally going to get the publications. Thanks again I can always depend on PN members to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeannean_. Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>Carol, I found the digitour on Nikon's website helpful with that "overwhelming" feeling:</p> <p><a href="http://www.nikondigitutor.com/eng/d300s/index.html">D300s Digitour</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>I've recently 'down-graded' to an old fuji digital camera and two old film cameras - they all take some getting-used to, with different ergonomics, operations, parameters, menus or whatever. Taking things 'easy' is the way to do it - like 'wearing-in' new shoes - rushing to press the new camera into service can lead to short-cuts and bad habits. As a memory aid, I use small sticky notes attached to the camera - masking tape is useful since it's easily removed.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>Doesn't the D300S come with a Quart Start booklet? That should help. The biggest difference from the D80 to the D300/D300S is the Multi-CAM 3500 AF system.</p> <p>The video feature on the D300S is kind of dumb; essentially it is just on and off with little control. Figure out how live view works and video is merely one button push away.</p> <p>Otherwise, Aperture Priority and manual M are still available as on the D80. You should be able to take some pictures immediately.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray_l Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>Carol, I went from the D70 to the D300 so while I could get to the basics (ISO, shutter speed, aperture) pretty quickly there were other features that I didn't understand as I went through the menu. I did read the manual but I also purchased the magic lantern book and DVD and found that watching the video with my camera in one hand and the remote control (so I could pause) in the other hand was helpful. While the video does not cover all of the features and functions, nor does it claim to, it still provided a quick and useful education. <br> The D300s is a great camera and I know you will enjoy it very much after you use it for a while.<br> Best wishes,<br> Ray</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_k1 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>I can feel Carol's pain. I switched to a D200 several months ago after decades of film shooting, and am still trying to figure out how to get the *most* out of the beast. These modern dslrs have so many features built in to satisfy different genres and shooting situations (and to prove that a programmer can go wild if given a chance!?). The key is to nail down the kind of shooting *you* do, and then figure out how to set the camera accurately for *your* needs. Yes, you can set a dslr up on auto modes and get reasonable results from it. But you won't be getting the *optimal* performance it is capable of. If you let us know how you have been using your D80, you may get better answers.<br> For example, it took me months to figure out how to set the focus point on the D200:<br> <a href="http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Upbn">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Upbn</a><br> Another example is the operation of the flash's rear curtain sync. It took me many failures to figure out how it works (and doesn't work) with different exposure modes. Yes. it is spelled out in the 200 page manual. But I need to carry a cheat sheet just to remember where it is buried.<br> Finally, you may find some presets like these for your body helpful. Why Nikon does not provide one for each body is beyond me.<br> <a href="http://moosepeterson.com/gear/D200Settings.html">http://moosepeterson.com/gear/D200Settings.html</a><br> <a href="http://www.outthereimages.com/images/D200_Setup_Guide.pdf">http://www.outthereimages.com/images/D200_Setup_Guide.pdf</a><br> <a href="http://forums.steves-digicams.com/nikon-dslr/100735-d200-custom-settings-spreadsheet.html">http://forums.steves-digicams.com/nikon-dslr/100735-d200-custom-settings-spreadsheet.html</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick tom Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p> Hello, I'm on my 3rd dslr and luckily they were almost the same, the way the lay out that is. I haven't shot where I had to absolutely make a shot that many times in my photographic career. Recently someone ask me to photograph a birthday party and I realize at that moment I felt pressure to make the shots, and at that moment I didn't feel absolutely comfortable with my camera. Any ways my point is practice practice practice, as if it were a musical instrument and as some have said master what you need to know for the kind of shooting you do.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmckinnon Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>Carol, congratulations on your new camera. I am shooting with a D80 and feeling the need to add a second body. Am trying to justify the D300s, but will probably go (settle?) for the D90 in a couple of weeks.</p> <p>Shortly after buying my D80, about three years ago, I purchased Blue Crane Digital's "Introduction to the Nikon D80" video. I like the way it explains things and found I could watch a section, go try the techniques/instructions, then watch another section and do the same thing again.</p> <p>Adorama has <a href="http://www.adorama.com/DVIND700.html?searchinfo=introduction+D300s">"Introduction to the Nikon D300/D300s/D700, V1: Basic Controls"</a> for $19.99 with free shipping. OCD would lead me to run out and look for it locally. Either way, I think it would be twenty bucks well spent.</p> <p>As others have said, getting out there and shooting with it will probably give you the quickest way to become accustomed.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nishnishant Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 <p>A friend who upgraded from a D80 to a D300 (not 300s) was initially in the same position as you are now. He said it took him a week to start getting pics of the same quality as with his D80 - he mentioned something about setting up some profiles (not sure if that's the right term).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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