elizabeth_anderson1 Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Hello all, I am traveling to Germany next month and would like to buy the new Leica digicam for this trip. It occurred to me perhaps I would get it cheaper there? I can walk into a store and get it for 1100 bucks here, have not checked out the web yet. Would anyone know if there are significant discounts on Leicas in Germany? thanks... Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_baker___heidelberg_ Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Beth, you can save some money if you find a dealer who will sell for less than the list price. You can also have the tax refunded to you at the airport with the "Tax free for tourists" form that some dealers will provide. Here's an example (all prices in Euros): Noctilux 50/1 Leica list: 2635.00 -- with 10% off: 2371.50 -- with 16% tax back: 2044.00 With the exchange rate of dollars to Euro, it is not as good as a year ago. I bought the same item last year and paid ~$1700 instead of the ~$2040 it is now. Email me off list with your itinerary, I might know some dealers where you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricks Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Elisabeth, price is not the only consideration, and you will have the hassle of tax free, brining your unused product to the German customs staff, then get a refund in cash (in which case the Tax Free company keeps some of your money) I haven't used the new Leica digilux, but from the feedback on this forum I wouldn't buy one. I strongly suggest that you evaluate Canon G2 or a high end Nikon digital camera. Best of luck, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Beth: Don't forget that you will also have a hefty US customs fee as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Beth---STOP. You want to buy it here and test it here and make sure it works before your trip. A lens you might buy on a trip and be okay, but a digital camera? Buy here. Also you may have fewer warranty hassles with the camera bought here. Plus if you buy locally your local retailer will benefit. With taxes, refunds, then USA customs you might save a hundred bucks? Maybe? Not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_ilomaki Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Elizabeth: Be aware that most digital cameras and equipment such as scanners carry a warantee that is valid ONLY in the country of original purchse. Make sure you check this out before you buy it, along with all the other caveats. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabophoto Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Beth, I live in Germany but bought most of my Leica gear in the US as it was cheaper there. Carsten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver_s. Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 German law permits something called <i>Preisbindung</i>, i.e. a company is allowed to dictate minimum prices for which retailers are allowed to sell the company's products. In other words, if a German photo store sells the Digilux 1 for less than � 1200 (that's its 'suggested retail price'), Leica can, and will, not sell to the retailer any more. Guess what German stores do--you can't drop the prestigious brand for your own sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth_anderson1 Posted August 14, 2002 Author Share Posted August 14, 2002 wow! thank you so much for your replies. OK, I will not buy anything there... I have actually been giving the G2 some thought, it's very good for half the price, almost... you guys are great, appreciate the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_matlock Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 If you really want a Digilux 1, you can get it from B&H (according to their catalog) for $899.00. This is presumably with full Leica USA warranty. You won't do better in Germany. But check the comments on the Digilux and make sure that is the one you want! PS: Gray market dealers may have it even cheaper, but without Leica USA warranty. But by all means get the camera you are going to use before your trip in order to try it out and be familiar with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_m._carson Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Beth: I HIGHLY recommend B&H or Rich Avila, Villiage Camera --- Both in NYC. Buying in Germany is something of a problem and the dealers seem not to care very much if you do not buy! I located a new Leica M-6 Titanium with 35mm-f.1.4 Summilux-M ASPH lens for equivalent of US$3,750.00 in Hamburg a month ago. It should have been elligible for about a $600.00 refund of their VAT but the Dealer [Wiesenhavern Video-TV]could not be bothered to assist in obtaining a refund and they WOULD NOT mail to the US. So, that was that! If you want Rich Avila's address contact him at photovilla@aol.com. Good Luck, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Beth: Ken Hansen is also very helpful. His store is at 509 madison and the telephone number is 212 317 0923. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konrad_beck1 Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 to Oliver Schrinner: You wrote: "German law permits something called Preisbindung, i.e. a company is allowed to dictate minimum prices". Though I haven't been in Germany for the last 10 years, but I thought that all these fixed prices are now officially forbidden by law? I do realize that based on the long history, germans are not used to hackle, but it is allowed, I think, and every dealer can sell at whatever price he agrees on except for dumping prices = bellow his buying price. I thought that the only remaining area are book prices which are fixed (but the EU wants to attack this to)? Its time that Aldi, Tchibo, Eduscho and/or Edeka should start a Leica sale.... (sorry if the non-germans don't understand this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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