davidc1 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 <p>It was very sunny at the weekend and I was using the 1/1000 speed on my M6 Classic and a few of the shots have come back with a strange shading on them (example below) is this a shutter problem? I have just had the camera CLAed because the slow speeds were sticking and I'd be very annoyed if after only 10-12 films from a full service it was a shutter problem. what else could it be? <br> thanks<br> davidc</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmdelux Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 <p>definitely looks like a shutter problem. Where was it cla'd?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidc1 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 <p>It was cla'd by the main importer of Leica for Hong Kong (schmit marketing), they gave me 6 months warrantly with the repair so I may take it back...just annoyed as it was a shutter problem that was repaired (the shutter was hanging open at speed of 1/30s and slower).<br> thanks</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh_marrin Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 David, if the "banding" is not visible on the original negative, it might be a film scanning problem. I have a Nikon Coolscan V ED scanner that sometimes has output very similar to yours. Evidently glare/flare from the edge of the negative flares into the picture frame sometimes. Typically it happens on a frame on the end of a strip of negatives, and only on the edge of the frame closest to the inside of the scanner.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koray_p Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 <p>My M6 classic has the same problem, most likely it is related to shutter, see my post (and helpful replies) here:<br> <a href="00UVlo">http://www.photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/00UVlo</a></p> <p>And, here is an earlier post that I was given reference to:<br> <a href="00SfHi">http://www.photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/00SfHi</a></p> <p>Apparently, there is an easy DIY solution. But I didn't have the time to replicate the fault to be sure, so I didn't try the solution.</p> <p>Good luck,<br> K.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_tw Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 <p>Sorry for the blank post. It does look like a shutter problem, the second/closing curtain is either bouncing or stalling, I would say the former. My condolences, I have also had problems after a very expensive CLA in Australia. I love my Leica, but... Anyway, here is a picture from Florence, Italy...</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john carter Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 <p>I had high speed shutter banding, and after many back and forths: new curtains:</p> <p><a href="http://www.photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/00T4gD">http://www.photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/00T4gD</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lazzari Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 <blockquote> <p>"CLA'd by the main importer of Leica for Hong Kong (schmit marketing)"</p> </blockquote> <p>They need a new shutter tester...</p> <p>John C., your issue was <strong>too tight </strong>a slit width combined with too slow CTT's. Re-cementing new curtains to their barrels at the proper clearances was the remedy. This particular instance for David, is classic out of balance <strong>C</strong>urtain <strong>T</strong>ravel <strong>T</strong>imes.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_albertson1 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 <p>Shutter bounce. Take it back, it's a relatively simple fix.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john carter Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 <p>Gus, that is what two repairmen said then I said new curtains and every thing is great. Mostly, I think these repairmen don't diagnose.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lazzari Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 <p>Chuck, <strong>shutter bounce</strong> would exhibit an overexposed (double exposure from 2nd curtain recoil) <strong>white bar</strong> at the end of it's travel. Held normally & horizontal, it's always on the right side of the picture with any LTM or M camera. <strong>Brake adjustment</strong> would be the remedy for this.<strong> </strong></p> <p>David's M6 on the other hand, is one curtain catching up to the other, and as it does, it <strong>collapses</strong> the slit width, which then creates a much higher shutter speed on to that area of the image. (Or visa versa)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_liberty Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 <p>Before you do anything else, I think you might want to go w/ what Leigh said and ck your negs. I once had a bunch of seemingly bad shots from a camera that looked similar to the photo you posted, and when I put the negs on a light table they were perfect. An obvious scan issue.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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