480mm lens for 4x5

[neil_carey]

Can someone with experience using long lenses on 4x5 focused at infinity for color landscape/nature photography please compare the practical aspects of the following three 480mm lenses? (Weight and price are NOT a factor)

Rodenstock APO-Ronar 480 f/9

Schneider APO-Symmar 480 f/8.4

Rodenstock APO-Sironar-N 480 f/8.4

[alpshiker]

Neil, instead of comparing these 3 huge lenses from which the AR would be the only one that I would carry in

the field for 4x5 work, let me simply say that the Fujinon C 450/12.5 is in Copal #1, weighs less than 300g and

is extremely good. THE perfect landscape photographer choice. ...All right, I just notice that you said weight

and price is not a factor. Then the two later would offer a full more stop. But better have a sturdy camera and

not too many such lenses in your bag ;-)

[adam_friedberg]

what are "practical aspects" if weight and price are not factors? have

you handled either the apo symmar or sironar? they are roughly the size

and weight of the 210 super angulon. both are outstanding lenses

designed for low reproduction ratios. the apo symmar takes 105 mm

filters, the sironar 112 (lee makes a 105mm adapter ring, a 112mm ring

might be a special order item). the images circles are both 500mm. the

apo symmar's flange focal distance is 455.2mm, the sironar's 452mm.

it's a toss-up. i'd be surprised if too many 4x5 shooters have, much

less use, either lens. the apo ronar would be more practical and still

yield excellent results. its smaller i.c. (396mm) would present less of

a chance for bellows flare.

[dmin-99]

I second the Fujinon.

[walter_glover]

Neil,

 

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I used the Apo-Symmar 480mm - it was a nightmare on my

Sinar. Extra standard, tow bellows, two rail clamps and support

bar ... on, and on, and on.

 

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These days I use the Nikkor-M 450mm 1:9 and couldn't be

happier. I travelled from Australia to the UK and back with it last

year and was able to use it on my Linhof MT because the rear

section is so much smaller. (I did have to utilise the Wista

Extension Tubes to get infinity focus.)

 

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Certainly worth considering, especially as an alternative to the

Apo-Ronar.

 

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Happy New Year ... Walter

[tedharris]

Let me throw another lens into the mix. I use a Schneider APO

Artar 480 mounted in an Ilex #4 shutter. It can also easily be

mounted in a Copal/Compur #3 .. I jsut happened to have the Ilex

and so let Steve Grimes mount it in that. It is large for sure but

lighter in weight than my 240 Symmar-S MC. I tend to use it, my

360 Apo Germinar and my 240 Symmar MORE on my 8x10 than

on my 4x5 largely becaue of the weight. However, when weight

is not a factor I have used it for 4x5 and fund it to be among the

finest lenses I own in terms of contrast and resolution at all

distances. I hvae used the APO Symmar 480 and, at this focal

length, THINK I prefer the Artar but I have done no side by side

comparisons. I do beleive the Artar is lighter weight you will

also likelypay less for a pristine exmple than you will for the

Symmar (but not much less).