fritz_cole Posted July 19, 1997 Share Posted July 19, 1997 This question concerns focusing difficulty with mywonderfully sharp Fuji GW690III. When this camera isfocused right on, it's awesome, almost 3 dimensional.But I'm having difficulty getting 100% correct focusing.I know this is probably user error, but any helpor info. regarding enhancing the rangfinder focusingcapabilities would be greatly appreciated.Thanks and good shooting!Fritz Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonghou_xiong1 Posted July 20, 1997 Share Posted July 20, 1997 I never had any problems with focusing my Fuji GW690III. I think someone mentioned testing focusing Fuji sometime ago (this year?) in the old MFD discussions. If there is indeed a focusing problem, it is likely to be caused either by the finder or by the lens unit. You can test both. Finder error can be easily identified by checking the distance indicator on the lens focusing ring: you can measure if the distance of an object in focus is right or you can compare the reading with other cameras. If finder error is eliminated, you can open the back and use the white plastic sheet that comes with the camera (or any transparent sheet if you've lost the original) to see if things are in focus. Use "T" to open the shutter and the camera would work just like a view camera with a plastic "groundglass". You would be able to tell if the film plane is accurate. I've done both tests with mine and they were fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derick_miller1 Posted July 21, 1997 Share Posted July 21, 1997 I can't do much better than the previous response, since I have never used the GW690III, but I can point out a general tip on Rangefinder focusing.... <p> It is better to focus from near to far and not to hunt for focus. <p> Near to far means setting the lens so the point of focus is closer to the camera than the actual subject distance before focusing. Many Rangefinder users make a habit of setting the lens to focus on the closest possible point, and then focus. <p> Hunting means switching between in- and out-of-focus to narrow the gap, passing the point of correct focus with a narrower pass until you are in focus. This makes your focus less accurate. <p> Derick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_gaasland Posted July 21, 1997 Share Posted July 21, 1997 Derric, I was just wondering what the reasoning is behind your comment that focusing from "near" is better than "hunting"? Thanks, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim_fullbrook Posted July 22, 1997 Share Posted July 22, 1997 I also have a Fuji GW690II and have found it can be tricky to focus. Recommend trying to find an object in the scene that has vertical straight lines which is close to the point on which you want to focus and point the rangefinder "spot" at that. Focus closer than the object and gradually alter the focus "out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derick_miller1 Posted July 23, 1997 Share Posted July 23, 1997 John Gaasland asked why it is better not to hunt with a rangefinder.... <p> On a mechanical level, I don't know the answer to your question. I have read the advice a few places (including the Mamiya home page user forum), but I have never heard the mechanical reason. <p> Does anyone here know? <p> But, if your camera isn't focusing correctly, I presume you want to see if this solution will work for you. I suggest an experiment or two... <p> On a practical level, put your camera on a tripod and try focusing from near to far without hunting. Note where you end up by looking at your lens. Then try focusing by hunting and see if the point doesn't change. <p> If you want to pursue this experiment, use a yard-stick (or meter-stick) and place an object next to the stick which will be the object you focus on. Open your lens wide open (to minimize the depth of field) and try the focusing experiments on film. It is better to do this with the object relatively close to your camera, since depth of field gets bigger as the distance increases, and you will need a pretty big yard-stick :-) (At a greater distance, you just need more objects at measured distance from the object you are focusing on.) <p> With a field camera (like the speed graphic), the ground glass is the best way to check this sort of problem. As Zonghou Xiong pointed out, there is an accessory for the GW690III that acts as ground glass. You might be able to make something for other cameras, but you need to get it in exactly the same plane as the film. If you don't have ground glass, use film and take a series of pictures (with good notes or put something in the picture to say what you are doing). <p> Finally, evaluate the image on the ground glass or film with a loop and determine what is sharp. If the focus is correct, the depth of field should extend on both sides of the point of focus. In an ideal world, it will extend about the same amount in both directions. (If you don't have a loop, use a normal lens upside down. You can also use big prints, but that adds more variables.) <p> Derick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derick_miller1 Posted July 27, 1997 Share Posted July 27, 1997 I asked on the Mamiya user forum, and got this from Martin Silvermann, a rep for Mamiya (who worked for Leica before he worked for Mamiya, incidentally). He was answering the question about what happens when you hunt with a coupled range finder camera like the Mamiya 7 or the Leica... <p> "you are using the cam roller mechanism and shifting the critical RF ever so slightly -enough to be off by an inch or so in focus. Going from near and stopping eliminates any mechanical play." <p> The Mamiya Web page is an excellent resource. <p> http://www.mamiya.com/ <p> Derick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal_anderson Posted July 30, 1997 Share Posted July 30, 1997 I also have one of these impressive cameras and experienced some difficulty focussing because of my contact lens prescription. I solved this by replacing the rubber-ringed eyepiece lens with a Nikon eyepiece correction lens of the proper diopter. The ones for the Nikon FM2 fit like they were made for the big Fuji! <p> Neal Panama City, FL USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_gross Posted January 10, 2000 Share Posted January 10, 2000 not exactly to the point but - I have found that the Nikon DR3 right angle finder is v. helpful - it has lock down intermediate plus and minus diopter/eyepiece correction settings and allows me a more comfortable viewing & focusing position. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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