wayne_crider4 Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 This is basically a portrait question when shooting in customers homes and out in local parks. I threw in the street photography question as I am shooting quite a bit more film to be developed with my Graphic handheld. My current developing regiment isn't fast enough for alot of sheets; I look to speed up the process and get good printable negs. I currently use 4x5 HP5+ with some HP5+ & TX in 35mm in XTOL. (I will be additionally shooting FP4+ starting this week.) My temps and dilutions carry me into the 10 to 12 minute range. It seems Diafine is a faster less intensive procedure. From what it seems, and I am going out on a limb here, it doesn't need agitation? I like the idea of popping a bunch of negs into 4x5 tanks and letting it sit, whereas if I agitate I use alot less film as I don't lift and dunk. I addition, what can I expect in speed for the three emulsions and what is the difference if I don't push the film over pushing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_baker1 Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Hi Wayne, I have used TMX in 4x5 and TRI-X (pro) in 4x5 with Diafine (I used hangers and tanks). I have been so displeased with the result that for the moment I have stopped using Diafine. My problem stems from unevenness of the development. I follow the directions properly and get swirls in the skies and so on. I think that I underagitate the negs and think that I should be a bit more aggresive than the directions indicate. It does bring the highlights down and controls contrast quite well. Keith Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_nowaczynski2 Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 I use HP5 for hand-held 4X5 shooting, either rated at 400 and developed in PMK Pyro or rated at 1600 and developed in Microphen. Development is beautifully even thanks to JOBO processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_karp1 Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Wayne, I use Diafine for my 4x5 HP5+ or Arista 400 (not to open up another can of worms, but same same as far as I am concerned). I use an EI of 200. For FP4+ or Arista 125 I use an EI of 80 or 100, depending on how I feel that day. (You can tell that I am not overly technical about these things.) The instructions call for 5 seconds of agitation each minute. I use a processing panel (similar to John Sexton's "Slosher") devised by Phil Bard (see www.philbard.com). I agitate by lifting the top and bottom of the panel once minute, and either side the next. The instructions call for 3 minutes in each solution. I use 4 minutes. I love the Diafine. The negatives are very nice. I don't have to get too excited about time and temperature. If I need to go to N+1 I can dunk the neg in selenium for intensification. I have not had to go to N-1 You can't really go N+ or N- with this developer. It is an inherently compensating 2 bath.) I think that is why I like it. So many of the subjects I photograph usually need some compensation, and Diafine seems to handle these situations beautifully. I don't know what will happen if you do not agitate. It might be worth a try to experiment. Please let us know how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott walton Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 I like Diafine also and have been using it, as well as Divided D76 for years. You do need a little agitation but I shoot my TXP at 400 and love the high acutance of Diafine! When I need any manipulations (N+/N-) I use HC110 but usual shooting is Diafine. Your film will be snappy with sharp grain and a very easily printable neg that has a great contrast range!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_crider4 Posted July 15, 2002 Author Share Posted July 15, 2002 I did a little thread reading and caught a couple of responses about it (Diafine) not working very well in low contrast situations, so I'm wondering if my portrait photography would suffer in this developer. I could see any outdoor stuff in bright light OK, but the portrait is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_karp1 Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 Wayne, It is true that Diafine does not give you a contrasty negative. I tried an experiment this weekend to see if I could increase contrast by increasing the frequency of agitation. After developing a set of negatives that I was pleased with, I took the "back up set" and tried agitating them once every 45 seconds. The negatives are somewhat denser, but I doubt that you would find that it would satisfactorily raise contrast in a low contrast situation. I also noticed some uneven development on a few negatives, the first time I have seen this with Diafine. I would still try using Diafine as an experiment. I think you might be surprised by what you can do using it and perhaps intensifying the negatives with selenium from time to time to gain contrast. I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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