niels_de_boissezon1 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Hi I wan't to make long exposure during daytime and nighttime (above 30 seconds). I'll need very strong ND-filters but they are somewhat cumbersome when used with SLR's. Thats where a TLR comes in handy. So my question is: what used TLR would you recommend for this job? It should have mirror lockup and a remote shutter capability - and it would be nice if it used 52 or 58 mm filters. Keep in mind that I am on tight budget (around 400 $ and preferably less) Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_zet Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 any rolleiflex with a 2,8 lens - either planar or xenotar- will do - though all of them lack the mirror-lockup, because they are tlrs and dont need it. you can get adapters from bayonet 3 to 52 mm too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_seaman Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Neils, Almost all of the tlr's I have seen have a remote release capability. None will need mirror lock-up since there is no mirror on the taking lens. (One of the beauties of the tlr design is that you can see your model blink during the exposure - through the finder.) I used to have a Mamiya C330 and it would suite your needs perfectly though so would most of the other tlr's out there. I can't remember the size of the filters though... I do highly recommend the Mamiya tlr's though and they are almost the only game in town if you want a tlr and more than one lens. Another option would be a rangefinder. You could get a nice Koni-Omega for under $400 and also have a 6x7 negative. If you normally crop to a rectangle anyway for prints (like I do) you are really only getting a 6x4.5 instead of a 6x6. Good luck, Jim Seaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry_lambert1 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Most Mamiya lenses use either a 46 or 49 mm standard threaded filters. I have successfully used step up rings and put 52 MM filters (polarizer) on my C220, except this won't allow full view of focusing screen with the 55 4.5 lens. It wasn't that big a deal to me. I use heliopan filters because they have graduations so that you can place them on the camera in the same orientation as looking through the bare filter. Check KEH.com for options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I use my TLRs for nighttime photography. As others have said there is no mirror lockup involved - the upper mirror box for the viewing lens is totally separate from the lower box for the taking lens, shutter and film. Even TLRs that appear to have no method for using a cable release may have a solution. My Yashica 635 lacks a cable release socket in the shutter release button. However I discovered that by removing the knurled metal collar surrounding the shutter release button a cable release for a Nikon F would fit. Removing the knurled metal collar does not cause the shutter release button or other parts to come flying out so just save the collar to replace it after finishing up with the cable release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patric_dahl_n Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 You don't need a TLR with a fast 2,8 lens if you want long exposures. Buy a Rolleicord III with a superb Xenar lens, they use to sell for less than $100 on eBay. This camera uses Bay I filters, so since the camera is "cheap" you can order B+W ND filters in Bay I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediumformat Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 Or consider a Minolta Autocord, which has a fantastic Rokkor 75mm lens, and can be had on auctions for $100 or even less. Autocords use Bay 1 accessories just like rolleiflexes that use the 75mm Tessar or Xenar lens. All can flash synch at any shutter speed (usual shutter range is bulb, and 1 second on up to 1/500th). Another very inexpensive TLR with quality lens is the original YashicaMat with the Yashinon lens. The more recent 124 G models are made with a lot of plastic and in my opinion are not as durable as the standard Mat. Do you know which films you will be using and have you calculated additional time for reciprocity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 I forgot to mention in my earlier post... Some TLRs, like my Rollei 2.8C, have locking collars around the shutter release button. While most folks think of these as locks to prevent accidental shutter release when the shutter has been cocked, the locking collar can also be used to lock the shutter *open* with the shutter set to B. Handy for long exposures when a cable release is unavailable. My Canon FTbn had the same feature. Wish my Nikon FM2N had such an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 A TLR won't have )or need) mirror lock-up since the mirror is fixed. I have a Mamiya C3 which is relatively light and inexpensive. The shutter can be held open on 'B' with a locking cable release. The filter size is 49.9 mm but you could buy a step-up ring and use your existing filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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