ronald_smith2 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I can foresee the APS-C camera body for many years, the major players have lens sets to accommodate those needs. I have read in this thread about the need for primes on FF bodies and a certain mindset of how a particular lens "looks" after years of shooting, makes sense, but many enthusiasts now use zooms, exclusively. The camera manufactures recognize the far greater popularity of this type of lens and most cropped-body optics are zooms. Not long ago, the APS-C format didn't have a lot of true wide-angle lenses to cover the bases, but that has changed. Both formats can co-exist, the market forces will control the destiny of APS-C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_weston1 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Eventually yes, they may disappear. As Mp counts reach there maximum for APS and FF 35mm chips, currently with the new FF 21-24 MP cameras prices will come down to a point in a year or two that one may be able to crop a FF 24MP image to 12 MP and still have good quality for most objectives. Tied in with lower noise, etc, the APS cameras will no longer have an advantage in pixel density if they max out at 12-15mp which they seem to have...maybe a leap in technology will eventually lead to APS 24mp cameras, but for the near future this seems to be not likely. Even if that occurs there are limits to the needs most photographers need beyond 20+ mp, as most are happy for now with 12mp. There are plenty of other factors that can be improved aside from resolution. Time will tell for sure, but I don't see much advantage of a 24mp APS camera over a FF model with the same mp count. Most of us do not need 39+mp in our daily lives, else we would shoot MF. Those that do, will seek out whatever products fullfill their needs. Personally I would like to carry lighter smaller equipment, but a 50D or D300 size camera is fine. A P&S with a good APS or FF chip would be nice for real, with a good zoom lens range would make a fine backup at that point. At some point as camera sales trail off, technology not able to continually improving in leaps and bounds, I am sure camera prices will decrease and eventually a few years down the road, a FF 24MP camera will be sold in the $500-1000 range just like 12mp models do today....sorry for the rant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim gtz Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Crop dSLRs will always be favorable to "pocket shooters" wanting to move up from P&S cameras. Two points: on-camera flash, and no shutter lag. So cheap, light weight, crop cameras I think will always have a home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjb Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 When I D&P`d 1/2 frame film years back it was a PITA and never caught on much enlarging was not good, But 1/2 frame digital does work and folks are getting great prints from them, So no reason to cut em out, IMO XXXXd and XXXd will remain while XXd will move on to FF to join Xd, this gives a full market for manufacturers while keeping the majority happy. just hope this megapixel war is nearly over :) tho won`t be long and have to learn HD editing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_gabriel_dearborne Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I don't think there is a real danger for crop cameras to disappear. They are accessible for most amateurs and/or low budget professionals, they give an advantage in macro photography, as well as in portraits, so I think that their lifespan won't end soon. Besides, the produsction of crop sensors is much cheaper for the companies than that of full frame sensors. Otherwise the crop cameras should have been disappeared for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_frie Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 OMG! This is absolutely Hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrb Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 The decision to produce crop sensor cameras was commercial. Much will depend on the preferences of leading users as to the end of its commercial cycle. Even if these sensors are cheaper to build and sell trade has never turned its back to the percieved gains a new full frame euphoria could generate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujwal Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 when silicon wafers start costing as much as a chocolate wafer. maybe in next decade ? its ridiculous what Masaya Maeda said : "We don't think so; EF-S is perhaps more appealing to the younger market and female market, who appreciate the light weight. So EF-S is not going to be pushed out. At this moment we don't believe the 50D sector of the market will be going to full frame either, and we will continue to provide EF-S cameras and lenses to that segment." Didn't we have small and lightweight cameras in film era? the weight can be reduced. Canon engineers also said that In body stabilizations is impossible on FF camera. Well is it ? ask Sony engineers how to do it. I am positive, crop cameras will disapper but not as easily as those APS film cameras. But eventually it will when sensor get really cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheryl_bury_michals Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I have several Canon "crop" digitals (10D, 30D and 40D), which all come in handy for the sports photography I shoot on a somewhat regular basis. But for wide angle and landscape shots I've had to use a 14mm lens, as the 17-40 L I own didn't cut it with the crop factor. Which makes the FF ones like the 5D appealing for that type of photography, but only if the price point goes down a bit (and perhaps the weight of it as well), as I'd really like to own both. Price-wise, the SLR crop factor cameras wil be more accssible to the shooting public to buy for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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