george_smith15 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I'm getting a 1/2 circle in my print from photos shot in av mode on a canon 30D camara... Have changed lens and it stays yet in M mode with flash it's not there... any ideas?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Can you re-size an example image down to under 700 pixels wide, and post it here so that people can see what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goulden Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 it looks like what happens when a shutter is about to die, seen it posted many times here on photo.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_smith15 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 The shutter has around 25000 photos on it... it was a Canon Referb... which up until last week was working fine... as i say .. night stuff is all fine with flash.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwtphoto Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 looks like the shutter curtain is slow when recending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 With flash, the shutter is fully open when the flash fires. With long night time exposures, any leak through a shutter curtain makes no significant difference to the total exposure. With a shutter speed of 1/4000th used in your shot, the light leak will be very evident. The shutter curtains are moved by levers that swing in an arc: think of the blades of a Venetian blind being bent by someone peering through - this is what happens to the shutter curtain as the lever attachment points wear out. The shutter needs replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwtphoto Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 that should read receding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher hartt dallas Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I've seen something very similiar to this with a 20D which has gone from inside A/C to outside hot/humid conditions. Might this be possible for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I can't imagine why changing from inside to outside will cause the shutter to fail, though I can imagine that shutter failure might (at random) coincide with moving from inside to outside. It would take a very rapid extreme temperature change to cause metal expansion/contraction sufficient to cause damage, such as dipping the camera in liquid nitrogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher hartt dallas Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I'm not suggesting that temperature "jolts" (A/C to high humidity without equalization) causes mechanical failure, but it DOES result in condensation which for non-sealed bodies results in a variety of issues, including half circles like the one above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelh47 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 There is no question in my mind that this is the pending shutter failure mentioned by James. I had the exact same problem with my 30D a little over a year ago. Here is the link to the post I made about it at the time, including links to example photos. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Kisc I wound up sending the camera to Canon to have the shutter replaced. It has been fine since. Hopefully you still have some of the refurb warranty left. A shutter replacement is a bit over $200, I think. Don't put it off too long before you get it fixed--I read about one individual who waited and later suffered a catastrophic shutter failure, blades mangled, etc. It required a much more expensive repair than the simple shutter replacement. This seemd to be a fairly common problem with 10/20/30 D series cameras. Hopefully, Canon have improved the shutter reliability with the 40D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach_rivers Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 if your camera is no longer under warranty, i would consider a local repair shop. when my shutter died, i got it repaired for 75 dollars at my local store, and in three days, rather than having to ship it all over the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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