daniel_flounders Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Hi, I am ready to buy my first lens and am really looking forward to getting this baby.It's exactly what I want and after a lot of research I'm hoping it's all it'smade out to be. My question is about suppliers. I'm in the UK where everything is more expensive because of Gordon Brown and hismerry band of drunken slime ball men! I was look on amazon uk and the cost of this lens is ᆪ1,256.20 ($2,448.97)whereas on adorama.com I can get it for ᆪ896 ($1,745.00). As you can see there is a massive difference in price partly because there is a$125 rebate at present but its still a difference of about ᆪ290 ($565.35). I have to add $50 shipping.So I would end up paying roughly ᆪ920.74 instead ofᆪ1256.20. Still a good saving. Now, obviously being in the UK any warantee is with Adorama and if anything goeswrong its going cost me $50 to ship it to them and i'm not sure if I pay return. Anyway I'm wondering if I am best buying in UK and paying extra or purchasingfrom Adorama. Anyone dealt with them? Pros/Cons! This isn't grey market product because of the rebate the standard is slightlycheaper. I've also asked if they provide extra international warranty of course but theyhaven't replied yet. So what do you guys recommend? Cheers Danny P.S. Why when I write in these posts do I get that funny symbol before the poundsign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_flounders Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share Posted June 14, 2008 I've just thought, there will be import tax to pay and it might not be worth buying it after all form Adorama! Anyone know costs involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_smith2 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Daniel... There are other places in the EU that sell things cheaper than in the UK. There's a big one in Aachen, Germany for example that advertises in Chasseur d'Images, the leading French photo magazine. There are others as well. Amazon has sites in Germany and France that may be worth looking into. Luxembourg prices tend to be lower than average, but you'll have to go there to get them. Importing into the EU from the outside means paying customs, VAT and a processing fee. To make things worse, the monkeys include the shipping costs when they do this :-(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_flounders Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share Posted June 14, 2008 Hey Joe, Thanks for that. I thought imports from the EU were excluded from Import tax/duty which ever? At least that's what I read somewhere, but not everywhere in EU was covered. I'm not 100% certain as I haven't got a clue what the bstrds add on anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 You will not be able to benefit from any US rebate. You will be liable for duty (about 6%) and VAT on the price including shipping and insurance, plus a fee for dealing with customs, and your credit card is likely to give you no more than $1.85 to the pound. I doubt you will save anything at all importing from the US. Importing from the EU may not be much better: although there are no further taxes to pay, VAT rates are higher in Continental countries, and the Euro has strengthened somewhat since the lens was released, despite falling a little on the Irish referendum result. Many EU suppliers charge extra for credit card payment - they are used to direct bank transfer or even COD where their national postal services offer this cheaply. The consequence is that I doubt there are bargains to be had elsewhere at the moment. On the other hand, there is a wide choice of UK suppliers at fairly similar prices: http://camerapricebuster.co.uk/prod84.html I'd avoid the cheapest couple of suppliers, but several others have a reasonable reputation, and the choice may allow you to find one with the lens in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillbound Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 most people these days are just asking any friend that happens to be coming to the states to pick it up for them.. The lines at B/H are full of non-American accents these days with everyone taking advantage of the weak dollar. If you know anyone that will be coming anytime soon I know most companies will allow you to buy over the phone and pick up at the store to make sure the lens is waiting for you if you happen to be coming to the states... good luck great lens JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_quinn1 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Daniel, I am English and I work just by adorama and know it very well, they are pretty good but very plain speaking new yorkers which can take some getting used to, they are reputable and are probably second only to B&H in new york city. Dude if you want I can help you out with obtaining this lens (ben.quinn@mac.com), I feel for you having to pay rip-off Britain prices, its a scam. Some items are 80% more expensive than in the US. Remember NY & NJ residents have to pay 8% sales tax (because their warehouse is in NJ and store is in NY). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillbound Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 everyone that buys at the store pays tax. it has nothing to do with where you live but where you buy. if you mail it out of a state where the company does business then the company does not collect sales tax but it is still "legally" your responsibility to pay the tax in whatever municipality you live in...that's the theory at least. For B/H if you live outside NYC and do mail order - including ordering in the store but having it sent to another state you do not pay tax with your purchase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_smith2 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Daniel, "Importing INTO the EU implies customs, VAT and a processing fee." As Germany, Luxembourg and the rest are INSIDE the EU, that does not apply. Something from the USA or Hong Kong is from OUTSIDE and all that does apply. On the other hand, there are a number of Hong Kong merchants on ebay that say that you'll have nothing to pay in the UK if you buy from them. I don't know how this works or why, but some of these places have so much positive feedback that there is probably at least a certain amount of truth to it. Have a look and make your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph_jensen Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Daniel, is the 85L really the first lens you're buying, as you say in your opening line? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_bellenis Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 I assumed he meant his first "L" lens... maybe I was wrong... If that's the case, the 85mm f1.8 is a surprisingly good performer for a fraction of the price (around $350) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Ffordes in the UK have a mint s/h one of these for sale at present at UKP 999, which sounds a reasonably good deal to me (at least, by UK standards). I would have gone for it had the 85/1.8 not been so good at a fraction of the price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_flounders Posted June 15, 2008 Author Share Posted June 15, 2008 Thanks for your answers. @Ben Quinn Nice of you to offer Ben it's really good to hear someone who understands how bad things really are in uk for prices. @Ralph Jensen This is not my first lens, I've got two other lenses which are crap in comparison. I feel let down by them and know I will use my camera even more with a good set of lenses. I know tax is inevitable but when prices can be $1000-$1200 less in US it really just adds to the sheer frustration living in the UK getting ripped of every time you open your wallet... and yes it really is that bad. Like diesel at $2.92 a litre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_jones43 Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Ordered from www.onestop-digital.com many times from the uk. Fast delivery within 5 days and also no duty to pay. Worldwide Canon warranty. Even got cashback from canon on a lens that i bought from onestop :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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