yvon_bourque1 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I know...the same ideas can be used with other brands of DSLR but this is, after all, a Pentax Forum! I am not sure about all Countries in the world, but here in America, it seems like every town has regular car shows. I'm not talking about a three day event, inside a coliseum, with a steep admission fee. I'm talking about local shows, involving local car enthusiasts and usually held in a parking lot of a restaurant or along the Main street, and free for all. It's a place where everyone can go and look at all the work some guys have done to their car, antique car, roadster, Pick-up truck, etc. We have several of these shows each week where I live and since we are along the path of the old Route 66, it even more prominent around this region. Every Thursday night, in the parking of "Farmer Boys" restaurant, people gather to look at the restored old cars and customized cars and trucks. Usually, there is music supplied by local talents. It's a place for owners to show their beloved machine and a place for everyone to admire them. There is something about the love of automobiles in the heart of all Americans. It seems that most like to photograph cars. One problem I found in these car shows is that it is difficult to photograph the cars without having someone in your way, or having a cluttered background, or the cars being too close together. About two or three weeks ago, I went to the show with my K20D and brought two lenses; the DA 10-17mm lens and the DA 16-45mm lens. Most of the pictures I took were with the DA 10-17mm lens. It allowed me to get very close to each car, and by getting very low to the ground, I was able to isolate the cars successfully. Some of the pictures were just a portion of a car, but easily recognizable. I think that one of the biggest mistakes that photographers do, including me, is that we don't get close enough to our subjects. Sometimes, we are so far from our subjects that it becomes hard for someone else to look at our pictures and recognize what is the actual main subject.When I take my time and really think what the picture I'm about to take should be entitled, or what message or story it should convey to the viewers, I find that I am more successful. So, for this kind of events, get close, think about what the picture should be entitled, ask yourself if the image in your viewfinder will convey the intended message or story to the viewers, and if the answer is yesナ click! If the answer is uncertain, move to a different location or angle. If you just shoot at random, you may still get good pictures. However, you might even surprise yourself at what message the pictures convey, and it might not be even close to what you intended it to be.Simplicity is also a key to good photographs. This is just my way to photograph. I am not trying to be condescending to anyone. Some like my pictures, and some don't. The important thing is...go out there and take some pictures. Thank you for reading, Yvon Bourque<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvon_bourque1 Posted June 6, 2008 Author Share Posted June 6, 2008 Here's another... pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com Let's see your car pictures. Let us know if you do the same in your Country.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mharris Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 No Pentax Yvon, they are nice and it's a camera system I'm going to try someday. When I do cars I go for wide and close or tele and detail: <img src="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/mharris660/BuickWEB2.jpg"> <img src="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/mharris660/CherryWEB.jpg"> <img src="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/mharris660/CarShow10web-1.jpg"> <img src="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/mharris660/CarShow16web.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frygge Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yvon The fisheye looks like it was made for taking cool pictures of old cars Michael That Triumph shot is great!! British roadsters are the finest automobiles I know. Need to keep your arms closer to your body to increase stability though, not having Shake Reduction ;-) Cheers Fredrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johankruger Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 That is a very good tip, also concentrate on the fine detail, badges also make very nice photos. All of the below was taken at Cars in the park 2007.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jay_hector Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Yvon, if you're shooting for yourself do exactly what you want to do to make yourself happy. If you're shooting with a mind to get published in magazines and books and would like your archive to have value, you have to look at it a little differently. I shot F1 (as a freelancer <a href="http://www.jaypix.com/pix/bss.jpg"> for example </a>) with Road & Track , and also worked with a French press agency, Autopresse International, for whom I shot many car shows of the major event type. My opinions are based on my experience. I had a four page spread in L' Automobile of the 1981 Pebble Beach show. Great, but I was spanked for using a 20mm lens. PB was crowded so I wanted to get the whole car in and I was close to 'em hence the 20. After that the agency made a 50mm lens mandatory for most shots. They said their clients wanted a plain, sharp shot made with a 50mm (i.e. normal perspective) as that's what the readers liked to see. They also said that in the long run a good, plain and normal perspective shot would sell the most, especially to books. Obviously not all would be shot this way as a more artistic shot would be good for the lead, but then you might sell ten or twenty more of the plain shots. This is how I shoot a car show for my own entertainment, so I can study the cars for the rest of my life -- <a href="http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,57/page,viewtopic/t,304317/highlight,british+car+automobile+show/"> Example </a>. I cheated a little using a 25-50mm lens at 25mm on a D300, so it's still slightly wide angle. I only shoot in RAW, so PPing was minimal for this use. These pictures can be sold even if there's nothing to them art wise as they can be studied by a reader, as readers ultimately hate art. It's funny though, when I shot the <a href="http://www.jaypix.com/pix/r5web.jpg"> cover </a> of this book on the R5 Turbo, it was for the guy who chastised me for using the 20mm, and I used the 20mm for him and he was totally happy with the same perspective. What the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johankruger Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thanks for the tip!! But my photos still make me happy ;-) cheers JK.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2imaging Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I think the lens choice depends on what you are shooting, and who you are shooting for. A wide angle or fish-eye can be great for accentuating the lines and details while keeping them in context, and adds a fun angle. A concours show at Pebble Beach is a little to 'stuffy' for a fish-eye though. I have a friend that started this little trick a few years ago in Oklahoma City, and I'm thinking about doing it on Sunday at the Lake Afton car show (the world's largest free open air car show): Print up a stack of business cards with a web address on them (I use a smugmug gallery, but you could use flicker and an email address) and photograph every car you can (even the F*rds). Be patient and wait for people to move out of your way - you are trying to make SELLABLE shots. Hand the card to the owner, or leave it on/in the car before moving on. Upload the pix and wait for the orders to come in. I'm not saying you can retire on the income, but car guys love pictures of their cars. If you are out shooting to have fun anyway, why not make a little coin too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_n Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 When I shoot cars I use the 10-17 almost exclusively and always make a point of getting some fisheye photos. (If you need to you can accomplish the fisheye effect pp in PS. Its easy, works great and allows you to control the amount of effect.) Bring long several slave flashes on small cheap pocket tripods to add some sparkle on low contrast days. I've done a couple contract shoots of cars which give you more time and space to be creative. 1. Bring a step ladder and a telephoto zoom. Shot high and inline from in front of the car for a neat telephoto effect with infinite DOF. The 200/2.8 is better than a zoom if you can afford it. 2. Experiment with "painting" with your flash. 3. Get a couple cheap slave flashes for interior fills in the engine compartment and interior. One problem I haven't solved contract shots is glare on the windows. Any ideas? <img src="http://smile-123.smugmug.com/photos/245703663_Lnhkr-L-3.jpg" /><br/><br/> <img src="http://smile-123.smugmug.com/photos/197328852_vJAo5-L-1.jpg" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_kuhne Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I too enjoy car shows. Excellent photos here- I especially like the green Buick. Looks like about 1949 or so. I believe there is one coming up soon around my area. For shooting photos at a car show, I have found a 35mm FL is near ideal for me with full frame 35mm film, and with a DSLR, the 21mm Limited. Just enough closeup exaggeration for effect, wide enough to get the whole car in at a close distance, without backing into the way of people, and also good for closer shots of a car's features. Here are a few from last summer, which I attended with friends while on vacation, taken with my Pentax FA 35mm f/2 on my Pentax MZ-S, using Kodak UC ISO 100.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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