tholte Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Ton and David, I used the lawyer metaphor because Doug is a lawyer and it's great fun jabbing lawyers, especially if I know they have a sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.elliott Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Jab away my friend. Jab away. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberryhill Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 Tim and I go back a ways. I've learned to ignore what he says, and instead look at his marvelous photography. BTW, Tim's work has been selected POW a couple of times, and as I recall, the shots were made with the 18-70. At the very least, you all have reassured me that I haven't been taking pictures for several years with a piece of junk glass, and was just too blissfully ignorant to know it. I've learned more than that, but that is what has been nagging at me, particularly when I've to some festival or other event and seen all the long, fast lenses. I've felt endowment challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesBecker-Toronto Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 " I've felt endowment challenged." I also have the 18-70 mm lens and really like it but your comment made me realize why I have been getting all those emails for Viagra and for 'enlargements'. And I thought they were SPAM!! regards, cb :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_packman1 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 i'd like to compare it to wine. a good (i'd like to emphasise that word) cheap wine tastes nice and gets you drunkled. which is what most people require. an expensive wine does exactly the same thing, but tastes a little better. the 18-70 is a very good (but cheap) wine. and i drink a lot of it. no ill effects :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl_becker2 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I have and enjoy the 18-70mm for what it is. I don't shoot wide open at 18mm. I have primes that I use when speed is required. For daytime shooting is great, small and light to carry. I use a D200 body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdomingues Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 All I can say is, 18mm at f/13 for landscape. It works wonderfully, at least for me, I doubt that a lens 3 or 4 times expensier could deliver more 50% of quality in final image. Anyway a lot of times you can't tell the difference just with your eye, which is by the way the same that juges your photos. I have several photos taken with this lens here <a href=http://luzesombras.planetaclix.pt>Light&Shadows</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_leung1 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I had the 18-70 and the 50mm F1.8. Recently, I replaced my 18-70 with the Tamron 18-50mm F2.8. The newer Tamron is a better lens than the 18-70 but I also had some very nice shots with the 18-70. There's always some newer and nicer things on the market. Go with what you can afford. It's not just the lens that makes nice picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oskar_ojala Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 It's a good lens, but like all lenses a compromise. Of course not as good as the 50/1.8, but it has a zoom range and the results are not bad. I do prefer to use better lenses when shooting at the long end, though, but I don't hesitate to use the 18-70 when I need AF-S and zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowingsky Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I have the 18-55 DX kit and although it feels like it wouldn't survive a fart, it is very sharp, workably distortion tolerant and fast. I have that lens and the 50 1.8 AF D and it is hard to argue for more, given the setting on the D80 that make both lenses more versitile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowingsky Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 "settings" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadley Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Lil: "I've just started seeing complaints about how it preforms on the D300 on DPR" Would appreciate if you could expand on this - I did go over to DPR but did not find anything disturbing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Tod "A lawyer with a camera ... and now the jokes begin" I don't see what's so funny. Just because lawyers don't show up on film doesn't mean that they can't operate a camera. They can look through a viewfinder and push the button, just like normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddcwilson Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Jo In my former life I was a private investigator, who did work for lawyers with my camera. It was funny sometimes what I was asked to achieve with a camera ... especially from lawyers with no photographic experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddcwilson Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 ... sometimes to which my response was, "you want what?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Tod, that's because they see all those cool things that photographers can do, on movies and TV. Enlarge a person in the background 1000x... Shoot in total darkness... So, they know what you really can do, and if you say you can't, you're obviously holding back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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