andrew_manery Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Hi, I got a LTM 28-50 adapter so I can use my 5cm/3.5 Elmar with my M3, but when I put the adapter on the camera, the infinity lock lines up with the bayonet mount locking button, effectively blocking the infinity focus on the lens. Has this ever happened to anybody else? Did I just get a dud adapter? Is there a correct adapter for the 5cm/3.5 Elmar that is not the IRZOO 14097? Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am eager to (finally) be able to use the lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Andrew. Yes its a bad adaptor. Voigtlanger or Leica ones always work. I think your 50 Elmar should be OK like that for the time being, even with the infinity-lock hitting the bayonet lock, if you can live with it until getting a better adaptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Just focus the lens at a closer distance giving the lock some clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 further thought, the adapter is supposed to stay on the lens and the infinity lock does not rotate past the bayonet release when mounting and dismounting lenses. To remove the adapter from the lens, push the bayonet release and rotate the lens to the stop, but do not remove it from the body. Continue to rotate the lens. There is nothing wrong with your adapter. When screwing the lens into the adapter, if the adapter is on the body, then you need to focus the lens to a closer distance to get clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I see what you mean but with the adaptor already on the camera, the lens locked at infinity, it just touches the bayonet lock. Its where it ends up when screwed fully in that I think we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I have bought two generic adaptors from different sources and they were both out. Three, in fact because I got one replaced and that one was a dud, too. It was a 35mm one, which has to be accurate for access of the RF roller to the cam, which has to be TDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_wright1 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 the leica ring has a cutout on the rim that accomodates the Elmars focus lock<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_manery Posted April 26, 2008 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 Thanks so much for all of your responses so early on a Saturday morning. The adapter is indeed a copy, and looks identical to the Leica original. I think it must be threaded incorrectly for the Elmar lens because whether I mount the lens on or off the camera, the infinity lock is blocked. I guess I have learned my lesson about buying knock-offs, yes?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Your Elmar does have the 7 0-clock position focus-lock ? I'm having fun with an '11 0-clock' Elmar; can't get anywhere near infinity with that on an M2. But its a 35mm and I never use the infinity position with that lens, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer1 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Andrew Take a round needle file (Swiss file) and file a little half-moon notch in the flange of the adapter. Also, Mr. Wright is wrong. The notch that he shows, ends up at the 12 o'clock position. Extra points will be given by Herr Lehrer for those who can tell us what that notch is really for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 If you try one of these adaptors on an early type Elmar you find what the cut-out is for and Mr Wright is right. But the tab can still hit the bayonet-lock if its a bad adaptor - or an early Elmar. Had a brainwave and tryed the dud adaptor on the early Elmar and it damned near worked in bringing the infinity lock down to the 7 0-clock position - not quite, but an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer1 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Noo, Adrian. No Early Elmars had an infinity lock at the 12 o'clock position. 11-yes, 12-no. I have one of the earliest post "hockey stick" Elmars. Can any of you remember when Leitz made a lens cap which had lugs to act as a spanner to remove an adapter that was applied too tightly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Mr Wright meant the cut out area at the bottom of the adaptor. The semi-circle at the top just tells you it has clicked into place, by revealing the sealed top screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Oh, and the cut-outs are for the lugs on the lens cap/spanner to engage with, of coarse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 'of course' - of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_manery Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 For the sake of closure I picked up a correct Leica IRZOO adapter and it works perfectly. I will keep the knock-off in case I ever get an LTM 28mm lens w/o the infinity lock. Thanks everyone who responded for your help and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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